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 Painter  Croydon 26 Jan 17 6.07pm |
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Originally posted by Salford eagle
To be fair they probably base that on shots on target that were saved, I doubt it actually takes into account performance. He spilled the ball four times, this doesn't demonstrate good handling. I appreciate the people supporting Wayne, I don't particularly understand it, but hey ho. Let's be honest we have been spoilt in the past with the quality of our keepers. Please note this is not a "put Speroni back in goal" thread, the majority realise this is a department we are lacking in. Its easy to pick on a keeper, but WH gets undeserved stick. Yes, he spilled a few shots on Saturday, but I would prefer he spilled them and then gathered the ball, than let it fly past him into the net.
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| Brentmiester_General Front line in the battle against t... 26 Jan 17 6.34pm |
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For me, Wayne simply doesn't have the reactions or courage to be a top class goalie. He could make up for either of these points he lacks by having one or the other, because he is a big sod. But unfortunately without either trait it leaves him in the 'not quite good enough' bracket.
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| Rachid Rachid Rachid 26 Jan 17 9.29pm |
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Originally posted by cpj
You are surely not blaming WH for our poor win record over the last year? If you want to compare stats for this season, WH averages 3.1 saves per games and concedes 1.84 goals per games; SM averages 2.64 saves per game and concedes 1.88 goals. And before anyone starts saying that Speroni is better, just remember that he hasn't had a clean sheet in any of his last 14 league games. To be honest, none of the keepers is perfect - they all have their pros and cons. Speroni is the best instinctive shot-stopper from close range, but his back-spin kicking is poor, he gets beaten too easily from distance, doesn't dominate his area and his penalty record is woeful. Hennessey is the best for dominating his area and his kicking is good, but he's worse at free-kick positioning, can be slow getting down to low shots and he hasn't got near a penalty yet either. From what I've seen of Mandanda he doesn't dominate his area and his quick distribution caused several problems with players not expecting the ball. Obviously not all but Hennessey has a degree of culpability. GK is arguably the most important position. Since beginning of 2016 he's not put in a big, match winning performance but has looked all over the place in numerous close games which we've failed to win. Integral part of the losing mentality and one of several reasons we find ourselves in the position we are. Incidentally one win from twelve this season.
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| Brentmiester_General Front line in the battle against t... 26 Jan 17 11.48pm |
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Originally posted by Rachid Rachid Rachid
Obviously not all but Hennessey has a degree of culpability. GK is arguably the most important position. Since beginning of 2016 he's not put in a big, match winning performance but has looked all over the place in numerous close games which we've failed to win. Integral part of the losing mentality and one of several reasons we find ourselves in the position we are. Incidentally one win from twelve this season. Nailed it. Surely big Sam needs to see this as well and address?
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| cpj Kent 27 Jan 17 10.58am |
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Originally posted by Rachid Rachid Rachid
Obviously not all but Hennessey has a degree of culpability. GK is arguably the most important position. Since beginning of 2016 he's not put in a big, match winning performance but has looked all over the place in numerous close games which we've failed to win. Integral part of the losing mentality and one of several reasons we find ourselves in the position we are. Incidentally one win from twelve this season. Yes, but he's still got a better saves and goals concede ratio per game than Mandanda. So, if we got more points under SM then there must be some other reason for this.
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| paperhat croydon 27 Jan 17 11.37am |
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Originally posted by cpj
Yes, but he's still got a better saves and goals concede ratio per game than Mandanda. So, if we got more points under SM then there must be some other reason for this. i'm probably missing the point but Mandanda has been injured? Were he not inured, i'd wager he'd still be between the sticks
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| bexleydave Barnehurst 27 Jan 17 11.53am |
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Originally posted by paperhat
i'm probably missing the point but Mandanda has been injured? Were he not inured, i'd wager he'd still be between the sticks We don't know that do we, Sam may see things differently to Pardew?
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| paperhat croydon 27 Jan 17 12.12pm |
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Originally posted by bexleydave
We don't know that do we, Sam may see things differently to Pardew? we don't , hence my "i'd wager" comment. he hasn't replaced him yet so maybe he's good 'enough' in his eyes. tbh, he has bigger issues to deal with
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| Brentmiester_General Front line in the battle against t... 27 Jan 17 1.01pm |
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Originally posted by paperhat
we don't , hence my "i'd wager" comment. he hasn't replaced him yet so maybe he's good 'enough' in his eyes. tbh, he has bigger issues to deal with Perhaps if he dealt with the goalie issue then the bigger issues you speak of would no longer be so big. Given that the whole is greater than the sum of it's parts and all that.
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| matthau South Croydon 27 Jan 17 1.54pm |
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| Painter Croydon 27 Jan 17 1.58pm |
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Originally posted by matthau
Swap deal with Mandanda?
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| bexleydave Barnehurst 27 Jan 17 2.12pm |
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Originally posted by paperhat
we don't , hence my "i'd wager" comment. he hasn't replaced him yet so maybe he's good 'enough' in his eyes. tbh, he has bigger issues to deal with He's a late fitness test for tomorrow, and Speroni also has a minor injury, so it'll be interesting to see what SA does do.
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