From what I have read, the performance was dire and the "Fringe" players never covered themselves in glory.Why am I not surprised ? Absolutely diabolical and I feel sorry for our supporters who travelled down there to witness absolute dross.Worrying times.

We might be back on song for a poor Sunderland though. But it does rest on having 4 defenders and back up, which might mean Ledley being shifted to LB. And then Tomkins could be back for Everton so fingers crossed we might just get by. 1 more injury or inexcusable red card and we'll have problems.

Pray for them to recover fast.

Pardew saying Chungy was 'Terrific' tonight, SORRY WHAT!?! I don't want to single him out because 90% of our performance tonight was s***e and Lee was by far not the worst of the bunch but what is the point in falsely praising somebody who was in the team predominantly to create and when we don't get a single shot on target until the 82/3rd minute saying he was terrific! He was average at best neat and tidy and clearly highly technical but everything sideways and uninventive nowhere near terrific, Townsend on Sunday is what terrific creative and attacking play looks like. I get managers have to protect their players and deflect a little but terrific is a joke description he clearly can't actually believe that was terrific or the man is deluded! Sometimes Al just needs to learn to shut up does he not think we have eyes or something terrific is an insult to our intelligence and perception and most importantly the poor b******s that travelled to southampton on a weeknight to watch that drivel. I know it's just a word but it riled me up the lack of honesty, you want a better connection with the fans, don't feed us such disrespectful bollocks. In my eyes such blatant lying he might as well just of come out and said you're all morons and don't know what a good performance looks like so i'm going to deflect from my own failings and the failings of my players by prevaricating a horses*** opinion to you all with not even a hint of irony.

Edited by RDWEagle (21 Sep 2016 11.47pm)

RDWEagle would you rather AP just slated all the players pmsl. That'll really get them motivated. You do understand that even the shoddy fringe players may be needed from now until January/end of season. Lee may not have been amazing but as i have said before, at least it looked as if he was trying which is a damn sight more than some of them. It may be also that Pardew is trying to repair relations with a player which has a bit of a fractured relationship with Pardew and needs a bit of a confidence boost. The player (my opinion) has tried for every game he has come on for so far and he is a decent squad player.

Edited by CPFCwetrust (22 Sep 2016 12.21am)

What you fail to take into consideration is that everyones needs a different approach when it comes to man management.So many people are banging on about individual performances tonight but we made 7 changes from the weekend so how can the likes of Cabaye and even Fryers be judged against those that played on Saturday in a full strength team.AP picking out a positive rather than burying his head in his hands after a performance like that is exactly what I want to see as its down to the manager to raise the spirits and get everyone up for Sunderland.Start slating individuals or blaming bad luck with injuries and everyone starts feeling sorry for themselves and the spirit we rely on is lost.When you consider the luck we have had since January with key players it is mind boggling.Since the window closed its been Remy a few days after we manage to get the deal done,Souare in a car crash followed 10 days later by Tomkins in his home debut and Dann 3 days after that.Not one manager can legislate for that it makes it nigh on impossible for AP when he is desperately trying to improve the squad and the way we play to ensure we keep moving forward.It would be easy to focus the media on our bad luck in his interviews but the players read the papers and watch Sky Sports too and that feeling sorry for ourselves attitude is the last thing that needs to be in the players heads come Saturday.Im sure people will overlook this kind of thing when they debate AP and how good he is as a manager but he never complained when he was at Mike Ashleys Circus and he has never looked sorry for himself here even when we couldn't buy a win.

Edited by citizensmudge (22 Sep 2016 2.01am)

I get the different player different approach thing completely I was just trying to demonstrate my point. I am all for picking out the positives, and am usually one of the first to do so, at the end of the day I love palace I don't enjoy criticising them. But there is a difference between picking the positives and falsifying them, would you really agree Lee was 'Terrific'?

Anyway I just want a bit more honesty from AP something along the lines of 'We all know tonight wasn't good enough and we are all hurting because of that, Southampton were good but we flattered them. Nobody was at the level tonight, not the level I set as the manager or the level they hold themselves too as superbly gifted professionals. We ARE and WILL be better than that, we take the pain from tonights defeat and heart from Sundays TERRIFIC win in the league to our next game at Sunderland where we will leave it all on the pitch to get a result that our fans deserve'. I am no speech writer but that to me is a much more honest frank assessment, giving the players a kick up the arse whilst not being too scorning or highlighting individuals. As well as trying to take a relatively positive outlook into the next game at the same time as expressing to the fans it was far from good enough. (That would have got a lot more respect from me, and also includes the correct use of the word terrific.) However I am just one fan with an opinion.