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Kermit8 Flag Hevon 02 May 16 7.40pm Send a Private Message to Kermit8 Add Kermit8 as a friend

When two member states finally go to war or have a serious skirmish then will be the time for some to claim, with some foundation at last, it has not been a successful project for peace.

But as it stands, 60 plus years and counting says until then, the idea that it has had nothing to do with peace is laughable and somewhat ludicrous.

 

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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 02 May 16 8.09pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Kermit8

The 2012 Nobel Peace Prize was awarded to the European Union "for over six decades having contributed to the advancement of peace and reconciliation, democracy and human rights in Europe".

Totally right and totally deserved.

I don't believe that even you believe this stuff.

So the defeat and division of Germany, The Bomb, the set up of direct communication with Russia and the United Nations were just minor details. It was the good old European Union all along.
The EU might well play a role in diplomacy but to suggest that it has been the main reason for peace in Europe or the World is rather stretching the truth.

 
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Kermit8 Flag Hevon 02 May 16 8.54pm Send a Private Message to Kermit8 Add Kermit8 as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

I don't believe that even you believe this stuff.

So the defeat and division of Germany, The Bomb, the set up of direct communication with Russia and the United Nations were just minor details. It was the good old European Union all along.
The EU might well play a role in diplomacy but to suggest that it has been the main reason for peace in Europe or the World is rather stretching the truth.

Can you not read? It says 'contributed to' not 'responsible for'. Engage brain.

 

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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 02 May 16 10.30pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Kermit8

Can you not read? It says 'contributed to' not 'responsible for'. Engage brain.

Calm down.

You overplayed the significance of the EU in maintaining peace, guilty as charged.

Try not to blow a gasket. It's only politics.

 
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fed up eagle Flag Between Horley, Surrey and Preston... 02 May 16 10.42pm Send a Private Message to fed up eagle Add fed up eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Kermit8

When two member states finally go to war or have a serious skirmish then will be the time for some to claim, with some foundation at last, it has not been a successful project for peace.

But as it stands, 60 plus years and counting says until then, the idea that it has had nothing to do with peace is laughable and somewhat ludicrous.

The EU has f*** all to do with peace. NATO deals with that. You really are a dyed in the wool idealist aren't you.

 
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ZIGnZAG Flag Stoke 02 May 16 10.57pm

Hey the fcuker gets my vote!

 
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Cucking Funt Flag Clapham on the Back 02 May 16 11.27pm Send a Private Message to Cucking Funt Add Cucking Funt as a friend

Originally posted by Kermit8

The 2012 Nobel Peace Prize was awarded to the European Union "for over six decades having contributed to the advancement of peace and reconciliation, democracy and human rights in Europe".

Totally right and totally deserved.

I bet nobody will say who trousered the prize money. Obviously, that will forever remain a mystery seeing as, according to the EU, audited accounts are for benders.

 

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pefwin Flag Where you have to have an English ... 02 May 16 11.39pm

Originally posted by Cucking Funt

I bet nobody will say who trousered the prize money. Obviously, that will forever remain a mystery seeing as, according to the EU, audited accounts are for benders.

Audited?

I heard a bear shat just behind the Berlaymont.

 

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kenbarr Flag Jackson Heights, Queens, New York ... 03 May 16 1.42am Send a Private Message to kenbarr Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add kenbarr as a friend

Originally posted by Cucking Funt

I bet nobody will say who trousered the prize money. Obviously, that will forever remain a mystery seeing as, according to the EU, audited accounts are for benders.

Having worked in the NYC Comptroller's Office in the 1990s, any governmental agency or group that refuses to be audited needs a great deal of scrutiny. As an American, I know that any opinion I may have about the referendum is meaningless as I don't have a vote. I'll leave it those who do to make their own decisions and respect the one that is made.

 

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big_palace_fan Flag 03 May 16 11.27am Send a Private Message to big_palace_fan Add big_palace_fan as a friend

I respect everyone right to have differing opinions on this issue.

But you really must stand in that booth and question, is the EU basically going pretty well as it is, or do I want to be poorer, my children poorer, my country less important and Europe generally more unstable?

That is the question we are facing.

I am happy to admit the EU is not perfect and there have been losers but you must ask yourself the above question.

Think also, it is really the Eastern European child in a local school, a fruit picking immigrant who gets up at 5am to go to work all day, or the shopkeeper from Romania who is causing the problems in your life? Or is it a corporate and political structure that perpetuates a cycle of privilege and class, and suppresses the working / lower middle classes

 
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Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 03 May 16 11.32am Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by big_palace_fan

But you really must stand in that booth and question, is the EU basically going pretty well as it is, or do I want to be poorer, my children poorer, my country less important and Europe generally more unstable?

There are many I have spoken to who would scoff at such remarks as they would be in total disagreement with the argument that has been advanced.But we are all entitled to our opinions.

 
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big_palace_fan Flag 03 May 16 11.38am Send a Private Message to big_palace_fan Add big_palace_fan as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

There are many I have spoken to who would scoff at such remarks as they would be in total disagreement with the argument that has been advanced.But we are all entitled to our opinions.

For clarity, the argument the EU is basically going well ish at the moment?

 
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