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Johnny Eagles berlin 07 May 15 5.59pm | |
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Right enough of this shyte. Who thinks uncontrolled boarders or unchecked immigration to the UK would be a good thing for the economy ? As an aside I have read through the posts on here and whilst being totally dismissive of derban's points, not one person has effectively argued against them. Derban I doff my cap mate. Well Played Sir. Thats not the choice though is it. That's resorting to a kind of strawman argument, in which you justify something by presenting the only alternative as an absurd notion (essentially a rhetorical statement, because only very stupid people would believe in no border controls). The question really about to what extent does immigration benefit the country, and the best balance between the benefits and problems generated. The sad problem of the UK, is that it often sees only polarised arguments, both of which are equally stupid (ie Free migration or stop all migration or send em all back). What border controls do we have regarding EU immigration?
1 British person in Poland is on benefits. How many Polish do you think are on benefits here? It's a two way street, but it's not an even burden.
Es verdad. Sea un calle con dos caminos. Edited by Kermit8 (07 May 2015 5.47pm) I saw that documentary "Last Brits Standing" where they showed old Brits going to the Spanish doctor and getting free healthcare while embarassingly not speaking a word of Spanish. What they didn't mention is that Britain contributes £250m a year to the Spanish health budget to help them cover it. How much do you think the Slovakian and Polish governments are contributing to the NHS?
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Johnny Eagles berlin 07 May 15 6.02pm | |
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Right enough of this shyte. Who thinks uncontrolled boarders or unchecked immigration to the UK would be a good thing for the economy ? As an aside I have read through the posts on here and whilst being totally dismissive of derban's points, not one person has effectively argued against them. Derban I doff my cap mate. Well Played Sir. Thats not the choice though is it. That's resorting to a kind of strawman argument, in which you justify something by presenting the only alternative as an absurd notion (essentially a rhetorical statement, because only very stupid people would believe in no border controls). The question really about to what extent does immigration benefit the country, and the best balance between the benefits and problems generated. The sad problem of the UK, is that it often sees only polarised arguments, both of which are equally stupid (ie Free migration or stop all migration or send em all back). What border controls do we have regarding EU immigration?
Edited by Kermit8 (07 May 2015 5.30pm) How many millions of British people have moved to Poland and Romania, Kermit? How many are in Bulgaria taking advantage of the healthcare system? Free movement is fine when everyone is around the same economic level. When poor people are allowed to move to rich countries they tend to do so in droves. And who can blame them?
The difference between the north and south is tiny compared to between Britain and the former communist bloc. The minimum wage in Romania is 200€ a month. It's more than five times that in Middlesbrough.
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Right enough of this shyte. Who thinks uncontrolled boarders or unchecked immigration to the UK would be a good thing for the economy ? As an aside I have read through the posts on here and whilst being totally dismissive of derban's points, not one person has effectively argued against them. Derban I doff my cap mate. Well Played Sir. Thats not the choice though is it. That's resorting to a kind of strawman argument, in which you justify something by presenting the only alternative as an absurd notion (essentially a rhetorical statement, because only very stupid people would believe in no border controls). The question really about to what extent does immigration benefit the country, and the best balance between the benefits and problems generated. The sad problem of the UK, is that it often sees only polarised arguments, both of which are equally stupid (ie Free migration or stop all migration or send em all back). What border controls do we have regarding EU immigration?
1 British person in Poland is on benefits. How many Polish do you think are on benefits here? It's a two way street, but it's not an even burden.
Es verdad. Sea un calle con dos caminos. Edited by Kermit8 (07 May 2015 5.47pm) I saw that documentary "Last Brits Standing" where they showed old Brits going to the Spanish doctor and getting free healthcare while embarassingly not speaking a word of Spanish. What they didn't mention is that Britain contributes £250m a year to the Spanish health budget to help them cover it. How much do you think the Slovakian and Polish governments are contributing to the NHS? I didn't see that documentary so you perhaps have more knowledge.
250,000,000 divided by 750,000 = not a huge amount actually for a year's healthcare. Edited by Kermit8 (07 May 2015 6.07pm)
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Right enough of this shyte. Who thinks uncontrolled boarders or unchecked immigration to the UK would be a good thing for the economy ? As an aside I have read through the posts on here and whilst being totally dismissive of derban's points, not one person has effectively argued against them. Derban I doff my cap mate. Well Played Sir. Thats not the choice though is it. That's resorting to a kind of strawman argument, in which you justify something by presenting the only alternative as an absurd notion (essentially a rhetorical statement, because only very stupid people would believe in no border controls). The question really about to what extent does immigration benefit the country, and the best balance between the benefits and problems generated. The sad problem of the UK, is that it often sees only polarised arguments, both of which are equally stupid (ie Free migration or stop all migration or send em all back). What border controls do we have regarding EU immigration?
Edited by Kermit8 (07 May 2015 5.30pm) How many millions of British people have moved to Poland and Romania, Kermit? How many are in Bulgaria taking advantage of the healthcare system? Free movement is fine when everyone is around the same economic level. When poor people are allowed to move to rich countries they tend to do so in droves. And who can blame them?
The difference between the north and south is tiny compared to between Britain and the former communist bloc. The minimum wage in Romania is 200€ a month. It's more than five times that in Middlesbrough.
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derben 07 May 15 6.24pm | |
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Right enough of this shyte. Who thinks uncontrolled boarders or unchecked immigration to the UK would be a good thing for the economy ? As an aside I have read through the posts on here and whilst being totally dismissive of derban's points, not one person has effectively argued against them. Derban I doff my cap mate. Well Played Sir. Thats not the choice though is it. That's resorting to a kind of strawman argument, in which you justify something by presenting the only alternative as an absurd notion (essentially a rhetorical statement, because only very stupid people would believe in no border controls). The question really about to what extent does immigration benefit the country, and the best balance between the benefits and problems generated. The sad problem of the UK, is that it often sees only polarised arguments, both of which are equally stupid (ie Free migration or stop all migration or send em all back). What border controls do we have regarding EU immigration?
1 British person in Poland is on benefits. How many Polish do you think are on benefits here? It's a two way street, but it's not an even burden.
Es verdad. Sea un calle con dos caminos. Edited by Kermit8 (07 May 2015 5.47pm) I saw that documentary "Last Brits Standing" where they showed old Brits going to the Spanish doctor and getting free healthcare while embarassingly not speaking a word of Spanish. What they didn't mention is that Britain contributes £250m a year to the Spanish health budget to help them cover it. How much do you think the Slovakian and Polish governments are contributing to the NHS? I didn't see that documentary so you perhaps have more knowledge.
250,000,000 divided by 750,000 = not a huge amount actually for a year's healthcare. Edited by Kermit8 (07 May 2015 6.07pm) Presumably you would want any of them that have had extra-marital affairs denied any treatment?
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"Presumably you would want any of them that have had extra-marital affairs denied any treatment?"
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derben 07 May 15 6.40pm | |
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"Presumably you would want any of them that have had extra-marital affairs denied any treatment?"
Edited by Kermit8 (07 May 2015 6.30pm) I would be embarrassed if I compared a couple of Geordies comming to London to 300,000 a year EU immigrants to the UK.
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"Presumably you would want any of them that have had extra-marital affairs denied any treatment?"
Edited by Kermit8 (07 May 2015 6.30pm) I would be embarrassed if I compared a couple of Geordies comming to London to 300,000 a year EU immigrants to the UK.
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derben 07 May 15 7.05pm | |
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"Presumably you would want any of them that have had extra-marital affairs denied any treatment?"
Edited by Kermit8 (07 May 2015 6.30pm) I would be embarrassed if I compared a couple of Geordies comming to London to 300,000 a year EU immigrants to the UK.
Edited by Kermit8 (07 May 2015 6.58pm) As far as I'm concerned, anyone north of York is a Geordie.
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lankygit Lincoln 07 May 15 7.12pm | |
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"Presumably you would want any of them that have had extra-marital affairs denied any treatment?"
Edited by Kermit8 (07 May 2015 6.30pm) I would be embarrassed if I compared a couple of Geordies comming to London to 300,000 a year EU immigrants to the UK.
Edited by Kermit8 (07 May 2015 6.58pm) As far as I'm concerned, anyone north of York is a Geordie. Now, now, derbs, my dad was from Middlesbrough. I never got on all that well with the old fella, but to call him a Geordie is a bit low mate.
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"Presumably you would want any of them that have had extra-marital affairs denied any treatment?"
Edited by Kermit8 (07 May 2015 6.30pm) I would be embarrassed if I compared a couple of Geordies comming to London to 300,000 a year EU immigrants to the UK.
Edited by Kermit8 (07 May 2015 6.58pm) As far as I'm concerned, anyone north of York is a Geordie.
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derben 07 May 15 7.19pm | |
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I didn't realise 'up-north for so sectarian - I assumed it was a Socialist paradise where everyone identified with each other and dropped all these non-progressive labels.
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