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eaglesquirrel 26 Jan 14 8.07pm
Like him or loathe him Simon Jordan hit the nail on the head. We've brought in a class manager but aren't giving him the tools he needs to fulfil!
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26 Jan 14 8.07pm

Like him or loathe him Simon Jordan hit the nail on the head. We've brought in a class manager but aren't giving him the tools he needs to fulfil!

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sydtheeagle England 26 Jan 14 8.09pm
Quote eaglesquirrel at 26 Jan 2014 8.07pm Like him or loathe him Simon Jordan hit the nail on the head. We've brought in a class manager but aren't giving him the tools he needs to fulfil! Actually, we've surrounded him with tools. Sydenham by birth. Selhurst by the Grace of God.
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England 26 Jan 14 8.09pm

Quote eaglesquirrel at 26 Jan 2014 8.07pm

Like him or loathe him Simon Jordan hit the nail on the head. We've brought in a class manager but aren't giving him the tools he needs to fulfil!

Actually, we've surrounded him with tools.

Sydenham by birth. Selhurst by the Grace of God.

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laddo london 26 Jan 14 8.10pm
Quote est1905 at 26 Jan 2014 7.59pm Quote laddo at 26 Jan 2014 7.41pm Syd, please don't allow your degree and your perceived idea that you have some kind of superiority over people because you run your own business cloud the issue. Businesses are designed to make money. Profit. I may not have a degree but in this system of capitalism that is the primary concern of a business, to make money. Simon Jordan, at one time in his life had a great deal of business acumen, as did Mark Goldberg. Football fcuked this up for them. Can't you get this into your head, or does your business acumen blind you from the realities cpfc 2010 face. In one breath you reckon SJ had no business sense. In the other you want cpfc 2010 to behave exactly like a Goldberg/Jordan to deliver you with the signings you want, without considering the long term picture. I trust cpfc 2010 and thank Christ you're not in charge. It's egos like yours that saw our club almost die not long back. Do you know what the word acumen means because you seem to be confusing it with the word luck. You seem to be embarrassing yourself Oh god! Yes I know what acumen means. It basically means making sound judgements. What I am saying is once upon a time the likes of Goldberg and Jordan had sound business acumen themselves. They then bought a football club! Syd and others want our board to throw money at a situation like our previous owners above did. They are using their business acumen to realise such a policy can lead to disaster. Fcuking hell; this site gets worse! laddo "People say, live fast, die young. I say live fast, die old. That's me, the non-conformist". David Brent.
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london 26 Jan 14 8.10pm

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Quote laddo at 26 Jan 2014 7.41pm

Syd, please don't allow your degree and your perceived idea that you have some kind of superiority over people because you run your own business cloud the issue. Businesses are designed to make money. Profit. I may not have a degree but in this system of capitalism that is the primary concern of a business, to make money.

Simon Jordan, at one time in his life had a great deal of business acumen, as did Mark Goldberg. Football fcuked this up for them. Can't you get this into your head, or does your business acumen blind you from the realities cpfc 2010 face.

In one breath you reckon SJ had no business sense. In the other you want cpfc 2010 to behave exactly like a Goldberg/Jordan to deliver you with the signings you want, without considering the long term picture.

I trust cpfc 2010 and thank Christ you're not in charge. It's egos like yours that saw our club almost die not long back.

Do you know what the word acumen means because you seem to be confusing it with the word luck. You seem to be embarrassing yourself

Oh god! Yes I know what acumen means. It basically means making sound judgements. What I am saying is once upon a time the likes of Goldberg and Jordan had sound business acumen themselves. They then bought a football club!

Syd and others want our board to throw money at a situation like our previous owners above did. They are using their business acumen to realise such a policy can lead to disaster.

Fcuking hell; this site gets worse!

laddo

"People say, live fast, die young. I say live fast, die old. That's me, the non-conformist".
David Brent.

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SirPeanut Keston 26 Jan 14 8.14pm
I think both parties (laddo & syd) raise valid points. My views sit somewhere in the middle. Whilst I hold cpfc2010 in high regard and totally understand their cautious approach to splashing the cash. We are only taking about 1 or 2 players. If they are to truly help our fight against relegation they will cost a significant sum. It is a careful balancing act and somewhat of a calculated risk. However, it should not be enough of a gamble to risk the club's financial security. I, like everyone else am eagerly awaiting transfer news. However, I will not be to upset if we do not sign anyone. I just hope TP sees it the same way. It would be somewhat of a disaster if he walked away with the job unfinished! There are two kinds of person in this world: 1) Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
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Keston 26 Jan 14 8.14pm

I think both parties (laddo & syd) raise valid points.

My views sit somewhere in the middle. Whilst I hold cpfc2010 in high regard and totally understand their cautious approach to splashing the cash. We are only taking about 1 or 2 players. If they are to truly help our fight against relegation they will cost a significant sum. It is a careful balancing act and somewhat of a calculated risk. However, it should not be enough of a gamble to risk the club's financial security.

I, like everyone else am eagerly awaiting transfer news. However, I will not be to upset if we do not sign anyone. I just hope TP sees it the same way. It would be somewhat of a disaster if he walked away with the job unfinished!

There are two kinds of person in this world:
1) Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data

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est1905 26 Jan 14 8.15pm
Quote laddo at 26 Jan 2014 8.10pm Quote est1905 at 26 Jan 2014 7.59pm Quote laddo at 26 Jan 2014 7.41pm Syd, please don't allow your degree and your perceived idea that you have some kind of superiority over people because you run your own business cloud the issue. Businesses are designed to make money. Profit. I may not have a degree but in this system of capitalism that is the primary concern of a business, to make money. Simon Jordan, at one time in his life had a great deal of business acumen, as did Mark Goldberg. Football fcuked this up for them. Can't you get this into your head, or does your business acumen blind you from the realities cpfc 2010 face. In one breath you reckon SJ had no business sense. In the other you want cpfc 2010 to behave exactly like a Goldberg/Jordan to deliver you with the signings you want, without considering the long term picture. I trust cpfc 2010 and thank Christ you're not in charge. It's egos like yours that saw our club almost die not long back. Do you know what the word acumen means because you seem to be confusing it with the word luck. You seem to be embarrassing yourself Oh god! Yes I know what acumen means. It basically means making sound judgements. What I am saying is once upon a time the likes of Goldberg and Jordan had sound business acumen themselves. They then bought a football club! Syd and others want our board to throw money at a situation like our previous owners above did. They are using their business acumen to realise such a policy can lead to disaster. Fcuking hell; this site gets worse! It is you that do not read/listen. No one want all money squandered, just a sensible investment in the two or three quality signings the squad need to stay up and that's not my just my opinion, it's Tony Pulis and I know damned sure he knows more about it than you do! Compared to the £60m we get just for this season we could afford to do what Pulis is asking.
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est1905

26 Jan 14 8.15pm

Quote laddo at 26 Jan 2014 8.10pm

Quote est1905 at 26 Jan 2014 7.59pm

Quote laddo at 26 Jan 2014 7.41pm

I trust cpfc 2010 and thank Christ you're not in charge. It's egos like yours that saw our club almost die not long back.

Do you know what the word acumen means because you seem to be confusing it with the word luck. You seem to be embarrassing yourself

Syd and others want our board to throw money at a situation like our previous owners above did. They are using their business acumen to realise such a policy can lead to disaster.

Fcuking hell; this site gets worse!

It is you that do not read/listen. No one want all money squandered, just a sensible investment in the two or three quality signings the squad need to stay up and that's not my just my opinion, it's Tony Pulis and I know damned sure he knows more about it than you do!
Compared to the £60m we get just for this season we could afford to do what Pulis is asking.

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sydtheeagle England 26 Jan 14 8.16pm
Quote laddo at 26 Jan 2014 8.10pm What I am saying is once upon a time the likes of Goldberg and Jordan had sound business acumen themselves. They then bought a football club! I'm sorry but you've underlined what I've already pointed out (and, indeed, others). You clearly do NOT know what business acumen is. (You also appear to know very little about the origins of either Goldberg's or Jordan's wealth, but that's another story.) Let me give you a hint: you do not need business acumen to either a). make money, or b) achieve success. It can most certainly help, but it's not a prerequisite. FFS, at least look the word up and then if nothing else, we can then have a sensible conversation. Sydenham by birth. Selhurst by the Grace of God.
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sydtheeagle

England 26 Jan 14 8.16pm

Quote laddo at 26 Jan 2014 8.10pm

What I am saying is once upon a time the likes of Goldberg and Jordan had sound business acumen themselves. They then bought a football club!

I'm sorry but you've underlined what I've already pointed out (and, indeed, others). You clearly do NOT know what business acumen is. (You also appear to know very little about the origins of either Goldberg's or Jordan's wealth, but that's another story.) Let me give you a hint: you do not need business acumen to either a). make money, or b) achieve success. It can most certainly help, but it's not a prerequisite.

FFS, at least look the word up and then if nothing else, we can then have a sensible conversation.

Sydenham by birth. Selhurst by the Grace of God.

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Kosowski Standing at the top of B Block 26 Jan 14 8.23pm
I'm not one to piss my pants at the slightest provocation, but there's something clearly up. Not good timing before arguably the most important game of the season. Block B comment of 2011/2012 Season: "That's better Palace, better...but still fucking shit!" ---------------------------------------------------------------- Dann to Much, Much to Yong.
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Standing at the top of B Block 26 Jan 14 8.23pm

I'm not one to piss my pants at the slightest provocation, but there's something clearly up. Not good timing before arguably the most important game of the season.

Block B comment of 2011/2012 Season:

"That's better Palace, better...but still fucking shit!"

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Dann to Much, Much to Yong.

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Bill Glazier Mitcham 26 Jan 14 8.24pm
Quote est1905 at 26 Jan 2014 8.15pm Quote laddo at 26 Jan 2014 8.10pm Quote est1905 at 26 Jan 2014 7.59pm Quote laddo at 26 Jan 2014 7.41pm Syd, please don't allow your degree and your perceived idea that you have some kind of superiority over people because you run your own business cloud the issue. Businesses are designed to make money. Profit. I may not have a degree but in this system of capitalism that is the primary concern of a business, to make money. Simon Jordan, at one time in his life had a great deal of business acumen, as did Mark Goldberg. Football fcuked this up for them. Can't you get this into your head, or does your business acumen blind you from the realities cpfc 2010 face. In one breath you reckon SJ had no business sense. In the other you want cpfc 2010 to behave exactly like a Goldberg/Jordan to deliver you with the signings you want, without considering the long term picture. I trust cpfc 2010 and thank Christ you're not in charge. It's egos like yours that saw our club almost die not long back. Do you know what the word acumen means because you seem to be confusing it with the word luck. You seem to be embarrassing yourself Oh god! Yes I know what acumen means. It basically means making sound judgements. What I am saying is once upon a time the likes of Goldberg and Jordan had sound business acumen themselves. They then bought a football club! Syd and others want our board to throw money at a situation like our previous owners above did. They are using their business acumen to realise such a policy can lead to disaster. Fcuking hell; this site gets worse! It is you that do not read/listen. No one want all money squandered, just a sensible investment in the two or three quality signings the squad need to stay up and that's not my just my opinion, it's Tony Pulis and I know damned sure he knows more about it than you do! Compared to the £60m we get just for this season we could afford to do what Pulis is asking. So who are the 3.?
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Bill Glazier

Mitcham 26 Jan 14 8.24pm

Quote est1905 at 26 Jan 2014 8.15pm

Quote laddo at 26 Jan 2014 8.10pm

Quote est1905 at 26 Jan 2014 7.59pm

Quote laddo at 26 Jan 2014 7.41pm

I trust cpfc 2010 and thank Christ you're not in charge. It's egos like yours that saw our club almost die not long back.

Do you know what the word acumen means because you seem to be confusing it with the word luck. You seem to be embarrassing yourself

Syd and others want our board to throw money at a situation like our previous owners above did. They are using their business acumen to realise such a policy can lead to disaster.

Fcuking hell; this site gets worse!

It is you that do not read/listen. No one want all money squandered, just a sensible investment in the two or three quality signings the squad need to stay up and that's not my just my opinion, it's Tony Pulis and I know damned sure he knows more about it than you do!
Compared to the £60m we get just for this season we could afford to do what Pulis is asking.

So who are the 3.?

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sydtheeagle England 26 Jan 14 8.28pm
Quote Bill Glazier at 26 Jan 2014 8.24pm So who are the 3.? I can't answer for other people, but fairly clearly a goalscorer, a sitting midfielder to play alongside Jedi, and a centre half. Possibly a left back, too but that's a lower priority. Some say a winger but I don't see that. If only two of the three (or four) then the first two. As to whom that is, it would appear Sissoko is Pulis's preferred midfielder and Crouch may be his preferred forward. I don't know. With regard to the answer you're looking for, though, I think the positions we need to fill are obvious and I'm happy to let TP pick the players to fill them. Sydenham by birth. Selhurst by the Grace of God.
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sydtheeagle

England 26 Jan 14 8.28pm

Quote Bill Glazier at 26 Jan 2014 8.24pm

So who are the 3.?

I can't answer for other people, but fairly clearly a goalscorer, a sitting midfielder to play alongside Jedi, and a centre half. Possibly a left back, too but that's a lower priority. Some say a winger but I don't see that. If only two of the three (or four) then the first two. As to whom that is, it would appear Sissoko is Pulis's preferred midfielder and Crouch may be his preferred forward. I don't know. With regard to the answer you're looking for, though, I think the positions we need to fill are obvious and I'm happy to let TP pick the players to fill them.

Sydenham by birth. Selhurst by the Grace of God.

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est1905 26 Jan 14 8.32pm
Quote Bill Glazier at 26 Jan 2014 8.24pm Quote est1905 at 26 Jan 2014 8.15pm Quote laddo at 26 Jan 2014 8.10pm Quote est1905 at 26 Jan 2014 7.59pm Quote laddo at 26 Jan 2014 7.41pm Syd, please don't allow your degree and your perceived idea that you have some kind of superiority over people because you run your own business cloud the issue. Businesses are designed to make money. Profit. I may not have a degree but in this system of capitalism that is the primary concern of a business, to make money. Simon Jordan, at one time in his life had a great deal of business acumen, as did Mark Goldberg. Football fcuked this up for them. Can't you get this into your head, or does your business acumen blind you from the realities cpfc 2010 face. In one breath you reckon SJ had no business sense. In the other you want cpfc 2010 to behave exactly like a Goldberg/Jordan to deliver you with the signings you want, without considering the long term picture. I trust cpfc 2010 and thank Christ you're not in charge. It's egos like yours that saw our club almost die not long back. Do you know what the word acumen means because you seem to be confusing it with the word luck. You seem to be embarrassing yourself Oh god! Yes I know what acumen means. It basically means making sound judgements. What I am saying is once upon a time the likes of Goldberg and Jordan had sound business acumen themselves. They then bought a football club! Syd and others want our board to throw money at a situation like our previous owners above did. They are using their business acumen to realise such a policy can lead to disaster. Fcuking hell; this site gets worse! It is you that do not read/listen. No one want all money squandered, just a sensible investment in the two or three quality signings the squad need to stay up and that's not my just my opinion, it's Tony Pulis and I know damned sure he knows more about it than you do! Compared to the £60m we get just for this season we could afford to do what Pulis is asking. So who are the 3.? What are you asking me for? Trying to make out I'm some sort of football know all? No, it's Tony Pulis you want for that one. He says he has targets and we need two or three quality additions. What he says is good enough for me. He runs a football team, that's good enough for me. Is it not for you?
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est1905

26 Jan 14 8.32pm

Quote Bill Glazier at 26 Jan 2014 8.24pm

Quote est1905 at 26 Jan 2014 8.15pm

Quote laddo at 26 Jan 2014 8.10pm

Quote est1905 at 26 Jan 2014 7.59pm

Quote laddo at 26 Jan 2014 7.41pm

I trust cpfc 2010 and thank Christ you're not in charge. It's egos like yours that saw our club almost die not long back.

Do you know what the word acumen means because you seem to be confusing it with the word luck. You seem to be embarrassing yourself

Syd and others want our board to throw money at a situation like our previous owners above did. They are using their business acumen to realise such a policy can lead to disaster.

Fcuking hell; this site gets worse!

So who are the 3.?

What are you asking me for? Trying to make out I'm some sort of football know all? No, it's Tony Pulis you want for that one. He says he has targets and we need two or three quality additions.
What he says is good enough for me. He runs a football team, that's good enough for me. Is it not for you?

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laddo london 26 Jan 14 8.33pm
Syd, acumen means making sound judgements. At a period in their lives Jordan and Goldberg made sound judgements and thus made a fortune in doing so. Stop making out there is a hidden meaning to the word to suit your flawed argument. I have flagged up a major issue here with regards to how previous owners have operated the club and why our owners may then think that they need to be cautious. I have called it and you have absolutely no come back apart from trying to cast doubt on my knowledge of the English language. laddo "People say, live fast, die young. I say live fast, die old. That's me, the non-conformist". David Brent.
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london 26 Jan 14 8.33pm

Syd, acumen means making sound judgements. At a period in their lives Jordan and Goldberg made sound judgements and thus made a fortune in doing so. Stop making out there is a hidden meaning to the word to suit your flawed argument. I have flagged up a major issue here with regards to how previous owners have operated the club and why our owners may then think that they need to be cautious. I have called it and you have absolutely no come back apart from trying to cast doubt on my knowledge of the English language.

laddo

"People say, live fast, die young. I say live fast, die old. That's me, the non-conformist".
David Brent.

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sydtheeagle England 26 Jan 14 8.42pm
Quote laddo at 26 Jan 2014 8.33pm At a period in their lives Jordan and Goldberg made sound judgements and thus made a fortune in doing so. There is no evidence at all of the former. Only the latter. Indeed, Jordan's own account makes it very clear that his success was down to incredibly hard work, perfectionism, doggedness, and a willingness to ignore risk in pursuit of the big pay-off. Jordan had many things and some of them admirable, but as I said there is no evidence business acumen was ever one of them. That is something that if you have, you have. It doesn't come and go. What happened at Palace rather underlines this fact; that Jordan never had any acumen in the first place. If he had, he'd not have been so blinded by owning a football club that he'd blow all his money in one fell swoop. Acumen, but the way, is NOT making sound judgments. It's being quick and, in particular, insightful. I don't think "insightful" is a word anyone has ever used in the same breath as Simon Jordan, even when talking about the phone business. So now that you've managed to get me to spell it out and we've established that you don't know what acumen means, can we move on? Edited by sydtheeagle (26 Jan 2014 8.47pm) Sydenham by birth. Selhurst by the Grace of God.
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Quote laddo at 26 Jan 2014 8.33pm

At a period in their lives Jordan and Goldberg made sound judgements and thus made a fortune in doing so.

There is no evidence at all of the former. Only the latter. Indeed, Jordan's own account makes it very clear that his success was down to incredibly hard work, perfectionism, doggedness, and a willingness to ignore risk in pursuit of the big pay-off. Jordan had many things and some of them admirable, but as I said there is no evidence business acumen was ever one of them. That is something that if you have, you have. It doesn't come and go. What happened at Palace rather underlines this fact; that Jordan never had any acumen in the first place. If he had, he'd not have been so blinded by owning a football club that he'd blow all his money in one fell swoop.

Acumen, but the way, is NOT making sound judgments. It's being quick and, in particular, insightful. I don't think "insightful" is a word anyone has ever used in the same breath as Simon Jordan, even when talking about the phone business.

So now that you've managed to get me to spell it out and we've established that you don't know what acumen means, can we move on?

Edited by sydtheeagle (26 Jan 2014 8.47pm)

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