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eaglesdare Flag 23 Aug 23 5.37pm Send a Private Message to eaglesdare Add eaglesdare as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Most? Only a conspiracy theorist would say something as daft as that.

It seems you cannot read either.

Yes most did.

And what can I not read? Did you already say that Bidens statement was incorrect and misinformation? I must have missed that.

 

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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 23 Aug 23 10.21pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly

You seem to have low expectations of people in power. In many careers where people's lives are put at risk, the financial rewards are greater, and so is expectation, of at least professional standards.
In Biden's case, it is obvious to see he's not capable of reasoned thought expression.
However, other well-qualified and well-remunerated people, including scientists and other politicians, have talked and acted with impunity with words and actions that have lead directly to people needlessly dying.

That’s, in my opinion, entirely wrong.

I have high expectations of everyone, not just those in power but certainly including them. I also know that however high you might be you are still human and humans can make mistakes, even when trying to maintain professional standards.

Your dismissal of Biden is ridiculous. What’s obvious is that public speaking is not his strength. Unlike Trump whose only strength it is. Biden is a much quieter man who listens to others and does his work in a collegiate manner. I am not, and never have been, a big fan but as an alternative to Trump he has done his job. Getting rid of him was enough. Holding the line until the next election was all he needed to do.

I have no idea who you believe have taken actions that have led to people needlessly dying. That sounds suspiciously like a conspiracy theory to me but if you can provide evidence that it isn’t I will take another look.

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 23 Aug 23 10.40pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

Whatever you call it I hated doing it and in due course it happened to me just as suddenly. The difference was that I was 57 and mortgage free so it worked out well in my case. Take the money and retire. Happy days.

It’s always horrible but that’s what being a manager sometimes requires and if you handle it with compassion it can end up benefiting those involved, as you discovered.

It happened to me twice. The first time a company I had joined was taken over by, and merged with, the company I had left to join them. I was given 6 months “garden leave” and the maximum separation payment. I got myself a new job, at a higher salary, bigger car and arranged the start date immediately after the contract terminated. I banked the money then requested compensation for the enhanced pension arrangements I had with the old company, which weren’t included in the package. They refused, I threatened to sue, they gave in and I got another £50k. 3 months later I was appointed MD. Quite a result. The second time I took the money and brought my own business.

I had to “let go” a long standing sales guy who was pleasant but ineffective. He knew his time had come but I arranged support for him to assist in appraising his skill set and to help find a more suitable job. Which he did. Afterwards he was effusive in his thanks and told me he had never been sacked so nicely.

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 23 Aug 23 10.43pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by eaglesdare

Yes most did.

And what can I not read? Did you already say that Bidens statement was incorrect and misinformation? I must have missed that.

Most again? I’ll settle for one because I don’t know of any.

Yes you did miss it. It’s never been denied that the statement on its own is anything else. Only that it wasn’t on its own.

 


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eaglesdare Flag 23 Aug 23 11.22pm Send a Private Message to eaglesdare Add eaglesdare as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Most again? I’ll settle for one because I don’t know of any.

Yes you did miss it. It’s never been denied that the statement on its own is anything else. Only that it wasn’t on its own.

Health pass was one.

So you said that the statement from Biden was incorrect and misinformation? Case closed so.

 

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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards georgenorman Flag 24 Aug 23 7.24am Send a Private Message to georgenorman Add georgenorman as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I object to being called a liar.

The dispute I have with the government is completely unconnected to the Coronavirus pandemic and therefore has no place in this thread.

It is also not the business of anyone here. It's a private matter which was mentioned in the past in a completely different context.

I trust that's the last time this needs to be said.

Just for clarity, have you ever been prosecuted for breaching Regulations 36 (2) and 36 (3) of the Gas Safety (Installation and Use) Regulations 1998, and Regulation 3(2) of the Health and Safety at Work etc. Act 1974?

 

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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 24 Aug 23 8.09am Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by eaglesdare

Health pass was one.

So you said that the statement from Biden was incorrect and misinformation? Case closed so.

I have no idea what you think that was.

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 24 Aug 23 8.10am Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by georgenorman

Just for clarity, have you ever been prosecuted for breaching Regulations 36 (2) and 36 (3) of the Gas Safety (Installation and Use) Regulations 1998, and Regulation 3(2) of the Health and Safety at Work etc. Act 1974?

No. Nor have ever had to even check whether I was in compliance.

 


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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

No. Nor have ever had to even check whether I was in compliance.

OK, thanks for the clarification.

You need to be alert to these things though, as they do seem to crack down on it in your neck of the woods!

“A private landlord from Cornwall has been given a 12-month prison sentence suspended for 24 months, fined £5,000, and ordered to pay costs of £5,524, after failing to maintain gas appliances at his rental properties on St Thomas Road, Launceston.

Truro Crown Court was told that the landlord, ***** ****, failed to maintain the gas appliances in the two properties, which were not inspected by a registered Gas Safe Register engineer.

An investigation by the Health and Safety Executive (HSE) also revealed that **** failed to obtain Landlord Gas Safety Records (LGSR) after May 2014, while the appliances had not been serviced for at least four years.

The landlord was punished after pleading guilty to breaching Regulations 36 (2) and 36 (3) of the Gas Safety (Installation and Use) Regulations 1998, and Regulation 3(2) of the Health and Safety at Work etc. Act 1974.”

[Landlordtoday, 2017]

Edited by georgenorman (24 Aug 2023 8.39am)

 

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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 24 Aug 23 9.17am Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by georgenorman

OK, thanks for the clarification.

You need to be alert to these things though, as they do seem to crack down on it in your neck of the woods!

“A private landlord from Cornwall has been given a 12-month prison sentence suspended for 24 months, fined £5,000, and ordered to pay costs of £5,524, after failing to maintain gas appliances at his rental properties on St Thomas Road, Launceston.

Truro Crown Court was told that the landlord, ***** ****, failed to maintain the gas appliances in the two properties, which were not inspected by a registered Gas Safe Register engineer.

An investigation by the Health and Safety Executive (HSE) also revealed that **** failed to obtain Landlord Gas Safety Records (LGSR) after May 2014, while the appliances had not been serviced for at least four years.

The landlord was punished after pleading guilty to breaching Regulations 36 (2) and 36 (3) of the Gas Safety (Installation and Use) Regulations 1998, and Regulation 3(2) of the Health and Safety at Work etc. Act 1974.”

[Landlordtoday, 2017]

Edited by georgenorman (24 Aug 2023 8.39am)

If you read my responses to this you would know that there is no gas in any of my properties. No gas, no problem.

I use an agent to manage them. One of their tasks is to ensure regulatory compliance. That’s what experts do and why we should defer to their knowledge and avoid thinking we know better.

 


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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

If you read my responses to this you would know that there is no gas in any of my properties. No gas, no problem.

I use an agent to manage them. One of their tasks is to ensure regulatory compliance. That’s what experts do and why we should defer to their knowledge and avoid thinking we know better.

Glad to hear that you are currently conscientious in ensuring your tenants' safety - the case quoted was in 2017.

Edited by georgenorman (24 Aug 2023 11.03am)

 

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eaglesdare Flag 24 Aug 23 10.26am Send a Private Message to eaglesdare Add eaglesdare as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I have no idea what you think that was.


Oh well.

 

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