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  georgenorman  23 Aug 23 9.22am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
What’s that got to do with either you, Coronavirus or gas servicing? I await an explanation with interest? "As we know, there are known knowns; there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns—the ones we don't know we don't know." [Rumsfeld]
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 23 Aug 23 9.24am |
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Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly
is the £10,000 the aftermath of an incomplete Covid contract ? No. If it had any connection relevant to this discussion I would have mentioned it.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 23 Aug 23 9.26am |
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Originally posted by georgenorman
"As we know, there are known knowns; there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns—the ones we don't know we don't know." [Rumsfeld]
Thanks for confirming.
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| georgenorman 23 Aug 23 9.43am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
So the answer is that you don’t know and are just blathering. Thanks for confirming. You think I'm just beating around the bush?
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| Stirlingsays 23 Aug 23 9.49am |
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Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly
is the £10,000 the aftermath of an incomplete Covid contract ? Personally I think you're right and he's lying. It's reasonably firm if circumstantial evidence.
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| eaglesdare 23 Aug 23 10.12am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Have you never heard the term “misspeak”? It’s used quite often these days when someone makes a statement in good faith which is then realised isn’t wholly true. I refuse to believe that Biden was simply lying. I believe, in his enthusiasm to encourage the take up of the vaccines, he got carried away and made a too positive claim. It’s something most of us do at one time or another. It’s not a big deal to any one other than those desperate to try to claim equivalence between him and his predecessor. Something that any rational observer is going to see through immediately. So those who wish to regard this as a “lie” are welcome to their myopic vision. I think it’s extremely short sighted. And stupid! Regardless if he misspoke, enthusiasm or didint realise it at the time even tho there was enough evidence of people catching covid with the vaccine and being hospitalized which was released by the CDC he was wrong and provided misinformation. The point is he was wrong and provided the misinformation regardless of the reasons you may think. Why can you not accept it?
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 23 Aug 23 10.22am |
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Originally posted by georgenorman
You think I'm just beating around the bush? No. I don’t think you have any idea what you are talking about.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 23 Aug 23 10.29am |
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Originally posted by eaglesdare
Regardless if he misspoke, enthusiasm or didint realise it at the time even tho there was enough evidence of people catching covid with the vaccine and being hospitalized which was released by the CDC he was wrong and provided misinformation. The point is he was wrong and provided the misinformation regardless of the reasons you may think. Why can you not accept it?
No one is suggesting the result didn’t provide misinformation at that precise moment, which was swiftly corrected by follow up statements. It happens. It’s not a big deal other to those with knives looking for a target.
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| eaglesdare 23 Aug 23 11.00am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
No one is suggesting the result didn’t provide misinformation at that precise moment, which was swiftly corrected by follow up statements. It happens. It’s not a big deal other to those with knives looking for a target. I can accept it. My point is that regardless of it all it was still misinformation. A word that you love using on "conspiracy theorists"
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Forest Hillbilly  in a hidey-hole 23 Aug 23 11.21am |
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What Wisbech is saying, seems to be , that people in positions of power and trust, well-paid jobs too, can be just as accident-prone as a roadsweeper in their job. ? In a National crisis, what you seem to be saying is that not speaking the truth is OK. Especially when it's for the general good, and even when it puts the population at greater risk of harm ? That stance doesn't sit well with me at all.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 23 Aug 23 12.34pm |
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Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly
What Wisbech is saying, seems to be , that people in positions of power and trust, well-paid jobs too, can be just as accident-prone as a roadsweeper in their job. ? In a National crisis, what you seem to be saying is that not speaking the truth is OK. Especially when it's for the general good, and even when it puts the population at greater risk of harm ? That stance doesn't sit well with me at all. If a road sweeper makes a mistake nobody notices or cares. If a politician does their opponents seize upon it to attempt to establish their own perspectives. It was ever thus. So it's necessary to try to take a step back and assess whether the error was deliberate or just a mistake. In this case, it is clear that this was an unfortunate unscripted expression, perhaps caused by a genuine misunderstanding. Biden isn't a virologist. He was urging people to get the vaccine and certainly not putting them at a greater risk of harm.
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Teddy Eagle  23 Aug 23 12.36pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
I am disappointed to see you on the distrust band wagon. Our security services work for our benefit and sometimes need to adopt unconventional tactics, in secret. I anticipate someone telling us next that the SAS ought to be disbanded because they don’t always follow the rules of war. I have the same attitude toward all of them, in authority or tasked with knowing what is best for us, that you have toward Trump and Johnson. There is a reason why MPs aren't allowed to call one another liars. Believe on half of what you see and nothing that you hear. Why is this lying b*****d lying to me?
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