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serial thriller The Promised Land 16 May 17 7.02pm | |
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Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch
Given his previous with the IRA he would probably have sent British troops to defend the taliban What are you on about? He spoke to the IRA the same time Thatcher secretly was. Wasn't like he was balaclavad up shouting death to Prods! We know what he would've done because he voted against nearly all those things in Parliament, and has consistently written public statements with fellow MPs providing alternative actions. People are so ignorant about this guy. I'm not saying you have to like him but if you're gonna make claims about him at least look up what you're saying before you write it.
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steeleye20 Croydon 16 May 17 7.05pm | |
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I am not interested in opinion polls and how other people vote is up to them. There is a distinctive choice this time and I am inclined to Corbyn he is refreshing. Regarding our electoral system this is the only occasion I have ever voted when it may make any difference to the result at all. Unless you are in a marginal it is hardly worth voting we are only marginally a democracy.
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Stirlingsays 16 May 17 7.12pm | |
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Originally posted by serial thriller
What are you on about? He spoke to the IRA the same time Thatcher secretly was. Wasn't like he was balaclavad up shouting death to Prods! We know what he would've done because he voted against nearly all those things in Parliament, and has consistently written public statements with fellow MPs providing alternative actions. People are so ignorant about this guy. I'm not saying you have to like him but if you're gonna make claims about him at least look up what you're saying before you write it. I'm sorry, comparisons in attitude towards the IRA between Thatcher and Corbyn are not only inappropriate but risible. You are in little valid position to fairly criticise anyone else when you make that comparison.
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Y Ddraig Goch In The Crowd 16 May 17 7.20pm | |
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Originally posted by serial thriller
What are you on about? He spoke to the IRA the same time Thatcher secretly was. Wasn't like he was balaclavad up shouting death to Prods! We know what he would've done because he voted against nearly all those things in Parliament, and has consistently written public statements with fellow MPs providing alternative actions. People are so ignorant about this guy. I'm not saying you have to like him but if you're gonna make claims about him at least look up what you're saying before you write it.
His stance has been well documented. As for the things he's voted against. It is easy to be a rebel when you're sitting on the back benches. Look at his apparent change on trident
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matt_himself Matataland 16 May 17 7.24pm | |
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Originally posted by Cucking Funt
Easier to just say "he's a c*nt" Sir, I cannot disagree.
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steeleye20 Croydon 16 May 17 7.31pm | |
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Originally posted by npn
I quite like the manifesto. Now, if they would just sack MacDonnell and Abbott, I could consider voting for them (I'd rather get shot of Corbyn too, but that's just for external facing foreign credibility issues - I don't think he's necessarily stupid or incompetent) So you like labour but want to sack them? I like it as they could be elected in that case and be unable to do anything
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susmik PLYMOUTH -But Made in Old Coulsdon... 16 May 17 7.32pm | |
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Originally posted by CambridgeEagle
What an absurd response. He's made quite a few decent points there, especially on corporation tax rates and the lack of opportunities to large amounts of the country provided by this and previous Tory governments. You've jumped on one point that you disagree with and described and then claimed the post lacks credibility. Sadly evidence suggests that the Tories either are elitist and unfairly treat the least well off or are simply careless and bad at running the country. Or both. Just look at the pamphlets they released with fake disabled people on praising their anti-disability policies. That link is dated: Tuesday 18 August 2015 20.25 BST So really old news now.
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susmik PLYMOUTH -But Made in Old Coulsdon... 16 May 17 7.42pm | |
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Originally posted by Mstrobez
I'm coming from a position of prejudice by responding to someone in a detailed post who says that labour hate the rich?? What are you going on about? I wrote line after line of questions, genuinely trying to understand your view, I only engage to understand different views, I don't understand people who argue about politics just for the sake of arguing, what's the point? A tiny little piece I made the statement that tories make you believe the poor are lazy, you've called me ignorant and prejudice yet ignore every single other point brought up which, again, was brought up after you claimed that Labour hate the rich. You're supposed to be the Tory expert, I asked you the questions to try and understand the reasoning behind your statements and all you can do is throw your toys out the pram, call me ignorant and tell me to jog on. Typical type of s*** really isn't it Edited by Mstrobez (16 May 2017 6.15pm) But they do that is a known fact. Labour think by taxing the better paid people they can make all these wonderful work like, Nationalise the railways, the post office, the water companies etc.. what a load of tosh. It has been proved by George Osborne that by lowering the tax threshold on the rich the government will rake in more money as when you tax the better off with high taxes they either move away or stop in vesting. Labour has ALWAYS been a high taxing and borrowing party and is why we are in the sh1t we are and paying back so much money. Labour if in power would bankrupt the country and we would ALLbe worse off as happened before.
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susmik PLYMOUTH -But Made in Old Coulsdon... 16 May 17 7.45pm | |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
I am not interested in opinion polls and how other people vote is up to them. There is a distinctive choice this time and I am inclined to Corbyn he is refreshing. Regarding our electoral system this is the only occasion I have ever voted when it may make any difference to the result at all. Unless you are in a marginal it is hardly worth voting we are only marginally a democracy.
Your vote will make no difference whatsoever... like your posts!
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serial thriller The Promised Land 16 May 17 7.48pm | |
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Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch
His stance has been well documented. As for the things he's voted against. It is easy to be a rebel when you're sitting on the back benches. Look at his apparent change on trident Regarding Trident, Corbyn ceded to the party vote on Trident, which was to maintain it. But since the leaked manifesto he has spoken repeatedly against Trident and about pushing to renounce it in party policy. Do you think he should've just fully taken over all policy decisions or something? Aren't leader's meant to be tolerant and inclusive in democracies? Disagree with his stance, by all means, on Irish nationalism and Trident. I can accept that. But why do you peddle bullsh*t about him which is just factually untrue? Like I say, there are huge parts of the Establishment who would rather a military dictatorship in this country than a man in charge who wants to work mulitlaterally towards world peace. I only have one more question: why do you think none of the mainstream media outlets mention the factthat one of the two favourites for this upcoming election has almost no chance of taking power, even if his party won? Don't you think that it deserves at least to be mentioned?
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steeleye20 Croydon 16 May 17 7.52pm | |
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Originally posted by susmik
Your vote will make no difference whatsoever... like your posts! It's a lottery Susmik whether your vote matters depends where you live. I would be happier to not live in this concrete dump to be honest but that's life.
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matt_himself Matataland 16 May 17 7.58pm | |
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Originally posted by serial thriller
Regarding Trident, Corbyn ceded to the party vote on Trident, which was to maintain it. But since the leaked manifesto he has spoken repeatedly against Trident and about pushing to renounce it in party policy. Do you think he should've just fully taken over all policy decisions or something? Aren't leader's meant to be tolerant and inclusive in democracies? Disagree with his stance, by all means, on Irish nationalism and Trident. I can accept that. But why do you peddle bullsh*t about him which is just factually untrue? Like I say, there are huge parts of the Establishment who would rather a military dictatorship in this country than a man in charge who wants to work mulitlaterally towards world peace. I only have one more question: why do you think none of the mainstream media outlets mention the factthat one of the two favourites for this upcoming election has almost no chance of taking power, even if his party won? Don't you think that it deserves at least to be mentioned? What source do you credit for the last paragraph? Which 'huge parts' of establishment do want a military dictatorship instead of Jezza? Have they gone on record with this stance? Very interested in whom these people are.
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