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Forest Hillbilly in a hidey-hole 11 Apr 19 9.16am
Originally posted by Pussay Patrol The Tories don't want a GE, they will take a battering for the brexit debacle, they are being propped up by the DUP and with an inevitable swing the other way who else can they go into coalition with? Corbyns popularity won't come into it as he will get all the remain voters and people who vote other right wing parties only helps labour. The only realistic next government is a labour / SNP coalition The possible permutations are limitless. No Tory MP wants to replace May before a leave-deal is done. It's a suicide mission. However, if May continues to fck things up, it puts the Government and Tory MP's under huge pressure from voters. Even the crumbling alliance with the DUP is unlikely to be enough. Corbyn is not a popular opposition leader to the voters/media. His Shadow Cabinet is also very poor. It's like watching a car crash in slow motion I disengage, I turn the page.
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Originally posted by Pussay Patrol

The Tories don't want a GE, they will take a battering for the brexit debacle, they are being propped up by the DUP and with an inevitable swing the other way who else can they go into coalition with? Corbyns popularity won't come into it as he will get all the remain voters and people who vote other right wing parties only helps labour.

The only realistic next government is a labour / SNP coalition

The possible permutations are limitless. No Tory MP wants to replace May before a leave-deal is done. It's a suicide mission.
However, if May continues to fck things up, it puts the Government and Tory MP's under huge pressure from voters. Even the crumbling alliance with the DUP is unlikely to be enough.
Corbyn is not a popular opposition leader to the voters/media. His Shadow Cabinet is also very poor.

It's like watching a car crash in slow motion

I disengage, I turn the page.

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Mapletree Croydon 11 Apr 19 9.27am
Originally posted by Midlands Eagle Not so. [Link] [Link] This is confusing Your first link appears to show the idea that Heath lied about the progressive effects of political union is in fact misinformation. The second link is not facts, simply hearsay. My father was a small business owner at the time and hugely enthusiastic for joining the EEC. As were the majority of people.
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Mapletree

Croydon 11 Apr 19 9.27am

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

Not so.

[Link]

This is confusing

Your first link appears to show the idea that Heath lied about the progressive effects of political union is in fact misinformation.

The second link is not facts, simply hearsay.

My father was a small business owner at the time and hugely enthusiastic for joining the EEC. As were the majority of people.

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Mapletree Croydon 11 Apr 19 9.33am
Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly The possible permutations are limitless. No Tory MP wants to replace May before a leave-deal is done. It's a suicide mission. However, if May continues to fck things up, it puts the Government and Tory MP's under huge pressure from voters. Even the crumbling alliance with the DUP is unlikely to be enough. Corbyn is not a popular opposition leader to the voters/media. His Shadow Cabinet is also very poor. It's like watching a car crash in slow motion What makes you say the Shadow Cabinet is poor? In contrast take a look at the Government. Talk about pale, stale and male. [Link]
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Croydon 11 Apr 19 9.33am

Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly

It's like watching a car crash in slow motion

What makes you say the Shadow Cabinet is poor?

In contrast take a look at the Government. Talk about pale, stale and male.

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Teddy Eagle 11 Apr 19 9.41am
Originally posted by Mapletree This is confusing Your first link appears to show the idea that Heath lied about the progressive effects of political union is in fact misinformation. The second link is not facts, simply hearsay. My father was a small business owner at the time and hugely enthusiastic for joining the EEC. As were the majority of people. The majority of the Labour Party weren’t hugely enthusiastic. They voted to leave in 1975.
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11 Apr 19 9.41am

Originally posted by Mapletree

This is confusing

Your first link appears to show the idea that Heath lied about the progressive effects of political union is in fact misinformation.

The second link is not facts, simply hearsay.

My father was a small business owner at the time and hugely enthusiastic for joining the EEC. As were the majority of people.

The majority of the Labour Party weren’t hugely enthusiastic. They voted to leave in 1975.

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cpfc_chap koh samui 11 Apr 19 9.48am
Originally posted by Pussay Patrol The Tories don't want a GE, they will take a battering for the brexit debacle, they are being propped up by the DUP and with an inevitable swing the other way who else can they go into coalition with? Corbyns popularity won't come into it as he will get all the remain voters and people who vote other right wing parties only helps labour. The only realistic next government is a labour / SNP coalition And who do you think the 60% of Labour voters who voted leave are going to vote? Pretty certain not a party that wants to stay or another referendum! Forget the new liberal Labour voters down south. It's the working class Labour voters that want out too!
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koh samui 11 Apr 19 9.48am

Originally posted by Pussay Patrol

The only realistic next government is a labour / SNP coalition

And who do you think the 60% of Labour voters who voted leave are going to vote? Pretty certain not a party that wants to stay or another referendum! Forget the new liberal Labour voters down south. It's the working class Labour voters that want out too!

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steeleye20 Croydon 11 Apr 19 9.48am
Originally posted by Mapletree This is confusing Your first link appears to show the idea that Heath lied about the progressive effects of political union is in fact misinformation. The second link is not facts, simply hearsay. My father was a small business owner at the time and hugely enthusiastic for joining the EEC. As were the majority of people. Both Heath and Wilson were quite straight with the people and the people gave their whole-hearted consent. The real difference between now and then is that now the Brits are no longer nice people.
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Croydon 11 Apr 19 9.48am

Originally posted by Mapletree

This is confusing

Your first link appears to show the idea that Heath lied about the progressive effects of political union is in fact misinformation.

The second link is not facts, simply hearsay.

My father was a small business owner at the time and hugely enthusiastic for joining the EEC. As were the majority of people.

Both Heath and Wilson were quite straight with the people and the people gave their whole-hearted consent.

The real difference between now and then is that now the Brits are no longer nice people.

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steeleye20 Croydon 11 Apr 19 9.53am
Wise words from the Spanish PM:- The most important lesson we need to learn from what’s happening in the UK is that when decision-making processes, based on lies, are put in the hands of the people, societies – in this case British society – wind up down a blind alley.
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steeleye20

Croydon 11 Apr 19 9.53am

Wise words from the Spanish PM:-

The most important lesson we need to learn from what’s happening in the UK is that when decision-making processes, based on lies, are put in the hands of the people, societies – in this case British society – wind up down a blind alley.

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Teddy Eagle 11 Apr 19 9.55am
Originally posted by steeleye20 Both Heath and Wilson were quite straight with the people and the people gave their whole-hearted consent. The real difference between now and then is that now the Brits are no longer nice people. Referring to people as pale, male and stale isn’t very “nice” either.
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Teddy Eagle

11 Apr 19 9.55am

Originally posted by steeleye20

Both Heath and Wilson were quite straight with the people and the people gave their whole-hearted consent.

The real difference between now and then is that now the Brits are no longer nice people.

Referring to people as pale, male and stale isn’t very “nice” either.

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Midlands Eagle 11 Apr 19 9.57am
Originally posted by steeleye20 Wise words from the Spanish PM:- The most important lesson we need to learn from what’s happening in the UK is that when decision-making processes, based on lies, are put in the hands of the people, societies – in this case British society – wind up down a blind alley. Is that the same Spanish Prime Minister that likes to imprison his opponents?
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Originally posted by steeleye20

Wise words from the Spanish PM:-

Is that the same Spanish Prime Minister that likes to imprison his opponents?

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chris123 hove actually 11 Apr 19 10.04am
Originally posted by steeleye20 Wise words from the Spanish PM:- The most important lesson we need to learn from what’s happening in the UK is that when decision-making processes, based on lies, are put in the hands of the people, societies – in this case British society – wind up down a blind alley. We're in good company, he had a pop at Pep too.
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hove actually 11 Apr 19 10.04am

Originally posted by steeleye20

Wise words from the Spanish PM:-

We're in good company, he had a pop at Pep too.

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Midlands Eagle 11 Apr 19 10.06am
Originally posted by Pussay Patrol The Tories don't want a GE, they will take a battering for the brexit debacle, they are being propped up by the DUP and with an inevitable swing the other way who else can they go into coalition with? Corbyns popularity won't come into it as he will get all the remain voters and people who vote other right wing parties only helps labour. The only realistic next government is a labour / SNP coalition As usual you are spouting rubbish. The latest YouGov poll is showing that whilst the Conservatives are losing popularity the Labour party is losing popularity at the same rate. [Link] According to that party voters won't switch from one of the major parties to the other but the smaller parties will be the benefiviaries. I will be voting for Nigel Farage's Brexit Party in the forthcoming European elections if he has a candidate in my area as they are the only party guaranteed to want the same thing as me
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Midlands Eagle

11 Apr 19 10.06am

Originally posted by Pussay Patrol

The only realistic next government is a labour / SNP coalition

As usual you are spouting rubbish. The latest YouGov poll is showing that whilst the Conservatives are losing popularity the Labour party is losing popularity at the same rate.

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According to that party voters won't switch from one of the major parties to the other but the smaller parties will be the benefiviaries.

I will be voting for Nigel Farage's Brexit Party in the forthcoming European elections if he has a candidate in my area as they are the only party guaranteed to want the same thing as me

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dannyboy1978 11 Apr 19 10.14am
Originally posted by Mapletree What makes you say the Shadow Cabinet is poor? In contrast take a look at the Government. Talk about pale, stale and male. [Link] What's wrong with pale (white) And being male Do you think it would be acceptable to say Dark , female and crusty? NO. You sound bigoted. Edited by dannyboy1978 (11 Apr 2019 10.16am) Edited by dannyboy1978 (11 Apr 2019 10.20am)
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11 Apr 19 10.14am