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Jimenez Flag SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 08 Jun 21 2.43pm Send a Private Message to Jimenez Add Jimenez as a friend

Originally posted by eagleman13

. . . or Tom & Barbara?

 


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Jimenez Flag SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 08 Jun 21 2.45pm Send a Private Message to Jimenez Add Jimenez as a friend

Originally posted by eagleman13

. . . or Tom & Barbara?

....... or Maple in a 2021 remake. 'The Hood Life'

 


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Stirlingsays Flag 08 Jun 21 2.56pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

Cool, kitchen gardens are the future according to my daughter. And try not to turn the soil too much, it reduces the ability to hold water and also destroys the underground culture by allowing the elements to get at it.

Maybe you'd like to join us here:

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An hour and a half from you.

Kitchen gardens, blimey.

Looks very impressive, but my fingers are so un-green that I'll be happy to just be the shovel guy.

 


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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 08 Jun 21 2.57pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by DanH

This is magnificent from Gareth Southgate. I honestly don't know how anyone could read this and still want to boo.

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Recommend reading the whole thing but this extract is so spot on:

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Our players are role models. And, beyond the confines of the pitch, we must recognise the impact they can have on society. We must give them the confidence to stand up for their teammates and the things that matter to them as people.

I have never believed that we should just stick to football.

I know my voice carries weight, not because of who I am but because of the position that I hold. At home, I’m below the kids and the dogs in the pecking order but publicly I am the England men’s football team manager. I have a responsibility to the wider community to use my voice, and so do the players.

It’s their duty to continue to interact with the public on matters such as equality, inclusivity and racial injustice, while using the power of their voices to help put debates on the table, raise awareness and educate.

Social media has been a key resource in giving our players a platform and has been a positive tool in so many ways. In fact, I feel like this generation of England players is closer to the supporters than they have been for decades. Despite the polarisation we see in society, these lads are on the same wavelength as you on many issues.

That said, there are times when my parental instincts kick in. I can’t help it. After all, I’m old enough to be a father to most of my players!

I see players scrolling on their phones straight after the final whistle and I think … Hmmm, is that a particularly good idea?

Reading abusive comments on Twitter or Instagram is never going to help performance.

There are genuine risks for our players online and I will always want to protect them, but I would never put rules on how or when they use their accounts while on England duty. I trust them and know they are mature enough to make their own decisions, to do what’s right for their mental health and to keep being a force for good as we strive for a better society.

The last 18 months have put added pressure on everyone, I know. Venting that might have taken place while walking out of the stadium, or in the pub has been transferred online. I get that. However, there are things I will never understand.

Why would you tag someone in on a conversation that is abusive?

Why would you choose to insult somebody for something as ridiculous as the colour of their skin?

Why?

Unfortunately for those people that engage in that kind of behaviour, I have some bad news. You’re on the losing side. It’s clear to me that we are heading for a much more tolerant and understanding society, and I know our lads will be a big part of that.

It might not feel like it at times, but it’s true. The awareness around inequality and the discussions on race have gone to a different level in the last 12 months alone.

I am confident that young kids of today will grow up baffled by old attitudes and ways of thinking.

For many of that younger generation, your notion of Englishness is quite different from my own. I understand that, too.

I understand that on this island, we have a desire to protect our values and traditions — as we should — but that shouldn’t come at the expense of introspection and progress.

Edited by DanH (08 Jun 2021 2.17pm)

All sounds typically simple minded.

He is implying that if you disprove of taking the knee or the media obsession with race issues, you somehow don't believe in a fair society for all or that you somehow approve of internet abuse.

How ridiculous.

 

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Crazy_Eagle Flag South London 08 Jun 21 2.58pm Send a Private Message to Crazy_Eagle Add Crazy_Eagle as a friend

Imagine booing a bunch of teenagers who are peacefully demonstrating for their rights for equality. Then cheering for them if they score. Jesus.

 


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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 08 Jun 21 3.05pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Crazy_Eagle

Imagine booing a bunch of teenagers who are peacefully demonstrating for their rights for equality. Then cheering for them if they score. Jesus.

Imagine bringing divisive politics into sport and them making it the biggest issue just before a major international competition.

 

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Stirlingsays Flag 08 Jun 21 3.07pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Crazy_Eagle

Imagine booing a bunch of teenagers who are peacefully demonstrating for their rights for equality. Then cheering for them if they score. Jesus.

We don't want your politics in sport.

If players want their free speech respected then they can also respect the free speech of those who disagree with political demonstrations on the sports pitch.

 


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Crazy_Eagle Flag South London 08 Jun 21 3.09pm Send a Private Message to Crazy_Eagle Add Crazy_Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Imagine bringing divisive politics into sport and them making it the biggest issue just before a major international competition.

Who's making it the biggest issue, you or the players?

 


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Stirlingsays Flag 08 Jun 21 3.15pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Crazy_Eagle

Who's making it the biggest issue, you or the players?

This is precisely why the Olympics bans this.

When you introduce politics sports suffers.

 


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Crazy_Eagle Flag South London 08 Jun 21 3.15pm Send a Private Message to Crazy_Eagle Add Crazy_Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

We don't want your politics in sport.

If players want their free speech respected then they can also respect the free speech of those who disagree with political demonstrations on the sports pitch.

You can't pick and choose. There always has, and always will be to some extent politics in sport. In fact the whole international tournament is made up of teams formed by political borders.

However... the players themselves have said the reason they are doing it is not political, so why does it have to be made so by any of us fans. In relation to their own gesture.

 


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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 08 Jun 21 3.19pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Crazy_Eagle

Who's making it the biggest issue, you or the players?

What a daft question.

The idiots who run football allowed this farce into the game and this is the result.
Now members of the media are saying that people who boo need 're educating'.

Apparently, it's not political.

Is this for real? Not political? Everything is political.

This is a bed that the weak minded fools who run football made, and now they will have to lie in it. It has only gone on this long because there have been no crowds. Everyone knows this.
What are they even taking a knee for? All I hear is half baked, undefined mumbo jumbo. This whole affair has probably set race relations back years, but the real vitriol should be kept for the liberal elites and their media puppets who have orchestrated the whole thing.

 

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Stirlingsays Flag 08 Jun 21 3.26pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Crazy_Eagle

You can't pick and choose. There always has, and always will be to some extent politics in sport. In fact the whole international tournament is made up of teams formed by political borders.

However... the players themselves have said the reason they are doing it is not political, so why does it have to be made so by any of us fans. In relation to their own gesture.

So nations are 'political borders'? What nonsense.

You are simply playing word games, the idea that 'kneeling' for 'black lives matter' isn't political is perhaps your opinion. However, that opinion isn't agreed with by many.

So you have an impasse.

 


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