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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 12 Nov 20 10.21am | |
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I have been puzzled about why Trump has adopted this position when it appears so obvious it's doomed to ultimately fail. Not only that but that he had been preparing for it. It hurts the country, is putting lives at risk of violence and lack of action on the pandemic. True to form he thinks only of himself and cares nothing for his country or others. Why though? He is potentially damaging his legacy, threatening brand Trump and ruining any realistic chance of a comeback. Who, apart from his base, will ever trust him again? I read a new analysis of this today, which suggested a reason I hadn't considered before. Debt! Apparently, his campaign is heavily indebted and needs to raise funds to clear it. He knows his businesses are going to be under pressure when he leaves and possibly may not survive. So no relieve there. So the money being raised from his base for the "fighting fund" to pursue legal actions may be a ruse to clear the campaign debt. Apparently, the small print on the donation agreements includes a caveat that it can be used for such other purposes as is necessary to support him. I have no idea if that is true, but it seems possible and more likely than if he truly expects these challenges to achieve more than hot air.
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Hrolf The Ganger 12 Nov 20 10.31am | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
I have been puzzled about why Trump has adopted this position when it appears so obvious it's doomed to ultimately fail. Not only that but that he had been preparing for it. It hurts the country, is putting lives at risk of violence and lack of action on the pandemic. True to form he thinks only of himself and cares nothing for his country or others. Why though? He is potentially damaging his legacy, threatening brand Trump and ruining any realistic chance of a comeback. Who, apart from his base, will ever trust him again? I read a new analysis of this today, which suggested a reason I hadn't considered before. Debt! Apparently, his campaign is heavily indebted and needs to raise funds to clear it. He knows his businesses are going to be under pressure when he leaves and possibly may not survive. So no relieve there. So the money being raised from his base for the "fighting fund" to pursue legal actions may be a ruse to clear the campaign debt. Apparently, the small print on the donation agreements includes a caveat that it can be used for such other purposes as is necessary to support him. I have no idea if that is true, but it seems possible and more likely than if he truly expects these challenges to achieve more than hot air.
Maybe Trump is fighting fire with fire. After the outrageous disrespect his office has endured over the last four years, I'm going to cut him some slack.
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 12 Nov 20 10.33am | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
None of it is true? Seriously? So 95% of the media hasn't been engaged in a campaign against trump from day one? Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (12 Nov 2020 10.21am) I think you are probably beyond help! Of course the media haven't been engaged in a "campaign"! That's pure Trumpspeak. They report what happens and when you have a President behaving as Trump has done it is absolutely normal for the reporting to be critical. This isn't Russia or China where a state-controlled media doesn't criticise those in power. They say it as it is, and it has been awful. The coverage has actually been quite restrained and very fair. Apart from the sycophants at Fox and the scurrilous right-wing outlets. I don't have the figures to hand but Mexican immigration has fallen in the last 4 years and I can well understand why. If I was a Mexican I would think twice about living in Trump's USA! The pressure has come from other South American countries.
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 12 Nov 20 10.39am | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Maybe Trump is fighting fire with fire. After the outrageous disrespect his office has endured over the last four years, I'm going to cut him some slack. Spread it? No! Share the thought as a possible reason that makes more sense than that it might succeed. Throwing fuel onto flames is only likely to see you suffering more burns than you already have. Fighting fire with fire in these circumstances is therefore not a wise strategy. Putting out the fire and rebuilding ready for another day makes much more sense.
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Teddy Eagle 12 Nov 20 10.44am | |
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 12 Nov 20 11.53am | |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
That article makes exactly the same points that I do. The only difference is that the author of the report it is based on has a more cynical view of the media. So what? It's just one opinion. He's entitled to it.
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BlueJay UK 12 Nov 20 11.54am | |
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'Very, highly unlikely' Trump wins Arizona, no evidence of fraud, state Republican attorney general says [Link]
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BlueJay UK 12 Nov 20 12.03pm | |
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Dead ‘voter’ cited in Trump lawsuit never cast ballot, Michigan records show [Link] and Meet Michigan’s ‘dead’ voters. They’re quite alive, despite false fraud claims [Link] Edited by BlueJay (12 Nov 2020 12.04pm)
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Teddy Eagle 12 Nov 20 12.43pm | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
That article makes exactly the same points that I do. The only difference is that the author of the report it is based on has a more cynical view of the media. So what? It's just one opinion. He's entitled to it. Well one difference is that it quotes actual data.
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matthau South Croydon 12 Nov 20 12.56pm | |
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Clever lady. She’s awake to what is happening.
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Lombardinho London 12 Nov 20 1.22pm | |
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Anyone care to take her on?
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BlueJay UK 12 Nov 20 3.21pm | |
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All of the points she raised have been debunked over the previous few pages (dead voters, 'glitches' etc), as well as the several debunked 'fraud' videos that have been posted by Trump and his sons. There's little sense in gliding past inconvenient facts that don't fit your preference. Many court cases in Nevada, Michigan and Arizona have already been thrown out for being entirely without merit (ones that touch on the topics raised by this woman). It may well be a case of throw enough mud at the wall until something sticks, which will then be latched onto as 'proof' of something terrible, but the clock is ticking down. Biden outperformed Clintons 2016 performance in just about all states, so there is nothing specific about swing states that's off at all. He won by several million votes. There's nothing at all marginal about his victory that any recount or discrepancies will change. He will be President come January.
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