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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 15 Jun 16 12.09pm
Originally posted by jamiemartin721 What was this today in the news about Gove and BJ saying that an exit would require 30-60bn in cuts. I thought that it was established that the UK would be 'massively' better off without contributing to the EU. I only caught it briefly, does anyone have any further details, because to me that sounds like the opposite of being better off, if we have to make large scale cuts in public services. Especially as one of the classic leave arguments deals with the 'pressure of EU workers on public services' Dunno bout Gove and Bj, but Osborne said he'd step up austerity if we left.
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Shizzlehurst 15 Jun 16 12.09pm

Originally posted by jamiemartin721

What was this today in the news about Gove and BJ saying that an exit would require 30-60bn in cuts. I thought that it was established that the UK would be 'massively' better off without contributing to the EU.

I only caught it briefly, does anyone have any further details, because to me that sounds like the opposite of being better off, if we have to make large scale cuts in public services. Especially as one of the classic leave arguments deals with the 'pressure of EU workers on public services'

Dunno bout Gove and Bj, but Osborne said he'd step up austerity if we left.

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npn Crowborough 15 Jun 16 12.24pm
Originally posted by nickgusset Dunno bout Gove and Bj, but Osborne said he'd step up austerity if we left. Sounded very much like a "do as you're told or you'll be sorry" from Osborne. He was talking about an emergency budget, with immediate tax rises. Given there are 2 years to negotiate the exit after a leave vote, that sounds like sh1te! Of course, if we leave, Cameron and Osborne will both be gone shortly after anyway so it won't be his problem
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Crowborough 15 Jun 16 12.24pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

Dunno bout Gove and Bj, but Osborne said he'd step up austerity if we left.

Sounded very much like a "do as you're told or you'll be sorry" from Osborne. He was talking about an emergency budget, with immediate tax rises. Given there are 2 years to negotiate the exit after a leave vote, that sounds like sh1te! Of course, if we leave, Cameron and Osborne will both be gone shortly after anyway so it won't be his problem

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DanH SW2 15 Jun 16 1.21pm
This is worth 5 minutes of your time. Nothing sums up the utter state of this referendum than what is going on on the Thames right now. [Link]
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SW2 15 Jun 16 1.21pm

This is worth 5 minutes of your time. Nothing sums up the utter state of this referendum than what is going on on the Thames right now.

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dannyh wherever I lay my hat....... 15 Jun 16 1.27pm
Originally posted by DanH This is worth 5 minutes of your time. Nothing sums up the utter state of this referendum than what is going on on the Thames right now. [Link] Thank Goodness your alive. "It's not the bullet that's got my name on it that concerns me; it's all them other ones flyin' around marked 'To Whom It May Concern.'"
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wherever I lay my hat....... 15 Jun 16 1.27pm

Originally posted by DanH

This is worth 5 minutes of your time. Nothing sums up the utter state of this referendum than what is going on on the Thames right now.

[Link]

Thank Goodness your alive.

"It's not the bullet that's got my name on it that concerns me; it's all them other ones flyin' around marked 'To Whom It May Concern.'"

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Ouzo Dan Behind you 15 Jun 16 1.34pm
I was just going to post the same thing Naval warfare on the Thames [Link] The mountains are calling & I must go.
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Ouzo Dan

Behind you 15 Jun 16 1.34pm

I was just going to post the same thing

Naval warfare on the Thames
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The mountains are calling & I must go.

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We are goin up! Coulsdon 15 Jun 16 1.42pm
As a Tory voter and former member, I have gone from being pretty damn angry at the campaign being run by Cameron/Osborne to revoking my membership. Osborne is a fcking cnt. His threat today is an absolute joke. Alternative budget if we Leave? George, I hate to break it to you, you thick fck, you will not be chancellor if we vote to leave. You shouldn't be fcking chancellor anyway. Even if you are chancellor there's absolutely zero chance of you getting such a budget through parliament. I will never, ever, ever again vote for a party that has him on the front bench. The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.
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As a Tory voter and former member, I have gone from being pretty damn angry at the campaign being run by Cameron/Osborne to revoking my membership. Osborne is a fcking cnt. His threat today is an absolute joke.

Alternative budget if we Leave? George, I hate to break it to you, you thick fck, you will not be chancellor if we vote to leave. You shouldn't be fcking chancellor anyway. Even if you are chancellor there's absolutely zero chance of you getting such a budget through parliament.

I will never, ever, ever again vote for a party that has him on the front bench.

The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.

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Lyons550 Shirley 15 Jun 16 1.43pm
Originally posted by big_palace_fan Anyone voting Brexit just hasn't thought through the issues properly. If we leave the biggest loser will have been the British education system. This would be the same education system that created people who cant think issues through properly? The Voice of Reason In An Otherwise Mediocre World
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Shirley 15 Jun 16 1.43pm

Originally posted by big_palace_fan

Anyone voting Brexit just hasn't thought through the issues properly.

If we leave the biggest loser will have been the British education system.

This would be the same education system that created people who cant think issues through properly?

The Voice of Reason In An Otherwise Mediocre World

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johnfirewall 15 Jun 16 1.47pm
Originally posted by We are goin up! As a Tory voter and former member, I have gone from being pretty damn angry at the campaign being run by Cameron/Osborne to revoking my membership. Osborne is a fcking cnt. His threat today is an absolute joke. Alternative budget if we Leave? George, I hate to break it to you, you thick fck, you will not be chancellor if we vote to leave. You shouldn't be fcking chancellor anyway. Even if you are chancellor there's absolutely zero chance of you getting such a budget through parliament. I will never, ever, ever again vote for a party that has him on the front bench. I am ashamed to say I voted for him. He's embarrassed himself and insulted the nation's intelligence.
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15 Jun 16 1.47pm

Originally posted by We are goin up!

I will never, ever, ever again vote for a party that has him on the front bench.

I am ashamed to say I voted for him. He's embarrassed himself and insulted the nation's intelligence.

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jamiemartin721 Reading 15 Jun 16 2.10pm
Originally posted by We are goin up! As a Tory voter and former member, I have gone from being pretty damn angry at the campaign being run by Cameron/Osborne to revoking my membership. Osborne is a fcking cnt. His threat today is an absolute joke. Alternative budget if we Leave? George, I hate to break it to you, you thick fck, you will not be chancellor if we vote to leave. You shouldn't be fcking chancellor anyway. Even if you are chancellor there's absolutely zero chance of you getting such a budget through parliament. I will never, ever, ever again vote for a party that has him on the front bench. I love the smell of Tories burning in the morning. I think this was what I caught a snippet of on the radio. Although I don't think its a situation where it wouldn't necessarily be true. I think the UK will take a knock economically due to panic on the exchange etc and that could result in a need to raise taxation at least in the short term. But I also expect the Government to represent the people, in such matters, not dictate to them. I think its pretty clear that there will be changes if we leave the EU. It was interesting to see Conservative MPs immediately threaten to rebel to prevent the chancellor pushing through a punishment budget. Its also of course noteworthy, that the economic wobble of a leave vote, will likely be long gone by the time the UK actually leaves anyhow (about 2 years after the referendum). "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]
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Reading 15 Jun 16 2.10pm

Originally posted by We are goin up!

I will never, ever, ever again vote for a party that has him on the front bench.

I love the smell of Tories burning in the morning. I think this was what I caught a snippet of on the radio.

Although I don't think its a situation where it wouldn't necessarily be true. I think the UK will take a knock economically due to panic on the exchange etc and that could result in a need to raise taxation at least in the short term.

But I also expect the Government to represent the people, in such matters, not dictate to them. I think its pretty clear that there will be changes if we leave the EU.

It was interesting to see Conservative MPs immediately threaten to rebel to prevent the chancellor pushing through a punishment budget.

Its also of course noteworthy, that the economic wobble of a leave vote, will likely be long gone by the time the UK actually leaves anyhow (about 2 years after the referendum).

"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
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Stuk Top half 15 Jun 16 2.43pm
Originally posted by DanH This is worth 5 minutes of your time. Nothing sums up the utter state of this referendum than what is going on on the Thames right now. [Link] The worst kind of politics. Optimistic as ever
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