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Teddy Eagle 08 Apr 19 2.17pm | |
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Originally posted by Jimenez
Not sure how this is relevant? You could srgue that Piers Morgan who voted Remain now favours he'd vote Leave if there was another referendum Morgan has said it's because he sees the attempts to stop us leaving as an assault on democracy. Imagine that.
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Jimenez SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 08 Apr 19 2.18pm | |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
Morgan has said it's because he sees the attempts to stop us leaving as an assault on democracy. Imagine that. .....and he'd be correct for once.
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cryrst The garden of England 08 Apr 19 2.47pm | |
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Personally me and all of mine are of the same mindset.
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Lyons550 Shirley 08 Apr 19 3.21pm | |
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Originally posted by Jimenez
Not sure how this is relevant? You could srgue that Piers Morgan who voted Remain now favours he'd vote Leave if there was another referendum As would I now....
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Pussay Patrol 08 Apr 19 3.45pm | |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
Morgan has said it's because he sees the attempts to stop us leaving as an assault on democracy. Imagine that. That's not exactly what he said, he said he would vote Leave in protest at the way politicians handled it, when actually he's a remainer and thinks Brexit is a bad idea
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Teddy Eagle 08 Apr 19 3.53pm | |
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Originally posted by Pussay Patrol
That's not exactly what he said, he said he would vote Leave in protest at the way politicians handled it, when actually he's a remainer and thinks Brexit is a bad idea Yes it is what he said but it doesn’t really matter. The votes are what matter.
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silvertop Portishead 08 Apr 19 8.22pm | |
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Originally posted by Spiderman
Read the thread he mentions this individual nearly every day Read... the... thread...
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jeeagles 08 Apr 19 9.08pm | |
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Originally posted by Lyons550
As would I now.... Me too, unless the EU offered us an incentive to stay. They seem to be in denial. I would be minded to say let's delay Brexit until past the next European elections. The referendum may make people all across Europe that them seriously for once (farage only got in on something like 7% of the vote). This could create a platform for a big enough multimember reform block in the parliament to actually make it useful and not self serving. If/when that fails, we'll then be able to say we gave it a final chance, the ideal is nice, but the organisation is rubbish.
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jeeagles 08 Apr 19 9.08pm | |
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Originally posted by Lyons550
As would I now.... Me too, unless the EU offered us an incentive to stay. They seem to be in denial. I would be minded to say let's delay Brexit until past the next European elections. The referendum may make people all across Europe that them seriously for once (farage only got in on something like 7% of the vote). This could create a platform for a big enough multimember reform block in the parliament to actually make it useful and not self serving. If/when that fails, we'll then be able to say we gave it a final chance, the ideal is nice, but the organisation is rubbish.
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Maine Eagle USA 08 Apr 19 11.13pm | |
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Spare some time and watch this, and see if some of it will sink in. Here you have a daily mail columnist no less...one of your right wing very own, explaining the issues with the enormous amount of lies that were told AND the enormous amount of additional information that is now known. He is up against some dame who really shows herself to be quite arrogant and foolish, accusing a man brave enough to admit that he made a mistake, of "caving in" and saying "you dont have to cave in yet" or something to that effect. She says "she hasnt seen 1 of the 17.4 million change their minds" yet one is standing next to her. Just nonsense from this lady, sorry lads, but its just complete nonsense. She also says "you must have known then what you know now". Simply ridiculous. It is simply a fact that a pack of lies were told about the economic consequences of brexit alone, let alone non economic areas, and far from positive those consequences could be dire and widespread. He correctly says that almost all polls show a move away from leave towards remain. She lies and says every single brexit voter wants no deal, just a complete untruth. He talks about the major companies who have painted a picture of mass reduction in jobs and investment post brexit, especially a no deal brexit. As he points out hundreds of thousands if not millions of jobs are at stake here. This is serious stuff. He makes the terribly salient point that if the Brexit campaign had been contesting a general election they would be out of office by now, so far from their lies would the current situation be. Their manifesto was a complete and utter pack of lies, nothing more or less. He talks about the threat to the Good Friday agreement. To claim that people understand the impact to peace in Northern Ireland in 2016 is a f&cking joke. NO ONE was talking about. Some of those jobs that will go, especially in a no deal, could be yours or people you know or care about. That would bring me no pleasure at all. The most important thing he says, is you need to be honest about this.
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Teddy Eagle 08 Apr 19 11.19pm | |
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Originally posted by Maine Eagle
Spare some time and watch this, and see if some of it will sink in. Here you have a daily mail columnist no less...one of your right wing very own, explaining the issues with the enormous amount of lies that were told AND the enormous amount of additional information that is now known. He is up against some dame who really shows herself to be quite arrogant and foolish, accusing a man brave enough to admit that he made a mistake, of "caving in" and saying "you dont have to cave in yet" or something to that effect. She says "she hasnt seen 1 of the 17.4 million change their minds" yet one is standing next to her. Just nonsense from this lady, sorry lads, but its just complete nonsense. She also says "you must have known then what you know now". Simply ridiculous. It is simply a fact that a pack of lies were told about the economic consequences of brexit alone, let alone non economic areas, and far from positive those consequences could be dire and widespread. He correctly says that almost all polls show a move away from leave towards remain. She lies and says every single brexit voter wants no deal, just a complete untruth. He talks about the major companies who have painted a picture of mass reduction in jobs and investment post brexit, especially a no deal brexit. As he points out hundreds of thousands if not millions of jobs are at stake here. This is serious stuff. He makes the terribly salient point that if the Brexit campaign had been contesting a general election they would be out of office by now, so far from their lies would the current situation be. Their manifesto was a complete and utter pack of lies, nothing more or less. He talks about the threat to the Good Friday agreement. To claim that people understand the impact to peace in Northern Ireland in 2016 is a f&cking joke. NO ONE was talking about. Some of those jobs that will go, especially in a no deal, could be yours or people you know or care about. That would bring me no pleasure at all. The most important thing he says, is you need to be honest about this. When you say Brexit voters don’t want no deal - which deals do you think they anticipated at the time? My suspicion is that no deal was the assumed position.
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Mapletree Croydon 08 Apr 19 11.26pm | |
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I believe the vote for Brexit could only have happened in a Britain that has forgotten what a European war was like, the fearfulness of the Cold War and the terror of Northern Ireland at the worst times. People get all brave again after a while. If Brexit happens I genuinely fear for the tenuous peace in Ireland. But then, when your sister gets showered with glass from an IRA bomb it kind of gets imprinted on the psyche.
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