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cryrst The garden of England 05 Apr 19 5.27pm | |
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Originally posted by Maine Eagle
I am not comparing us to anyone. I am just saying that if the reporting is true, and brexit uncertainty has cost us 550 million quid a week (a catchy line to put on a bus??) ......then I could understand that, as uncertainty is kryptonite to investment. So what exactly has the 500m a week been spent on
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Maine Eagle USA 05 Apr 19 6.02pm | |
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Originally posted by cryrst
So what exactly has the 500m a week been spent on I think you are misunderstanding the underlying concept here. This doesnt mean we spent that money. It means we didn't grow the economy as much as we should have, which means we lost out on the money coming in to the economy.
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Rubin 05 Apr 19 6.39pm | |
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Originally posted by Matov
I want to believe all of what you claim about May, I really do. But you do not achieve high political office in any country by being as stupid as you claim she is. It simply does not wash. Personally, and here I accept I am right into the conspiracy s***, I suspect her husband has played a huge role in all of this because they are in many ways a real 'power' couple. I accept that I am socially conservative with old fashioned views but I inherently distrust the motives of any politician who does not have children. I know that can be pulled to pieces in all sorts of ways but that is my gut instinct and nothing will ever change that. May is shrewd, with an incredibly thick skin (by all political conventions she should have gone even though she won the leadership challenge because of the amount of votes cast against her) and she does not come back to us with a deal that she knows is going to fail without having a bloody good reason. The DUP alone are reason it is a non-starter. And the DUP are the real deal when it comes to politics. This is not a game for them and I am sure they all still have to check underneath their cars for bombs along with knowing both victims and perpetrators of terrorist killings. They are a cut above your usual self serving political types we get in the UK. I am not defending them, and have never understood all that sectarian nonsense but they don't back down easily. She would have known that. Yes, some of the ERG did back it but I suspect they worked out what was happening. Again, these are not silly people (nobody who makes it Parliament should ever be underestimated) and I believe worked it out too late. Revoking A50 was never a goer. They need a second referendum to offer them at least a veneer of democratic accountability. May gets the Labour Party to give her that, with the backlash shared equally between them both. In someways it deserves kudos for the cunning. May showed her corruption and dedication to 'elites' over the public as Home Secretary. She appointed Fiona Woolf and Butler-Sloss to chair the Child Sexual Abuse enquiry, both of whom had close links to people who were to be investigated. She should have been charged with attempting to pervert the course of justice back then, preventing her becoming PM. Wouldn't have made a difference to the way Brexit has played out of course, as they would have just put someone else equally as subservient to the EU in the position instead.
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cryrst The garden of England 05 Apr 19 7.59pm | |
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Originally posted by Maine Eagle
I think you are misunderstanding the underlying concept here. This doesnt mean we spent that money. It means we didn't grow the economy as much as we should have, which means we lost out on the money coming in to the economy. I didnt at all.
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Pussay Patrol 05 Apr 19 8.47pm | |
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Originally posted by cryrst
I didnt at all. Sorry but you are still misunderstood Had we not voted to leave and we never had the current turmoil and uncertainty, our economy would be 66bn better off or 550m a week
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.TUX. 05 Apr 19 10.38pm | |
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Originally posted by Pussay Patrol
Sorry but you are still misunderstood Had we not voted to leave and we never had the current turmoil and uncertainty, our economy would be 66bn better off or 550m a week And you'd still not see a penny of it.
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Maine Eagle USA 05 Apr 19 11.39pm | |
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Originally posted by cryrst
I didnt at all. I didnt say investing money in the state, I said money coming into the economy. You asked where we "spent" the 550 mil a week. We didnt spend it, we lost out on it, as the economy in general grew at a slower rate than it should have. Therefore with all due respect, you misunderstood the point. It has nothing to do with "investing in the state" whatever that means.
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SW19 CPFC Addiscombe West 06 Apr 19 9.10am | |
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I didn’t write this, but it partly sums up my attitude towards the hypocrisy on the leave side, and to a lesser extent the remain side flip flopping between criticising MPs then expecting them to deliver. ‘The idiots panting we should ‘just leave’ and ‘we will be ok’ and ‘believe in Britain’ and other assorted spewey phrases of unconsidered putrid bile and fetid hot air need to remember that in order for no deal to be a success, THE SAME PEOPLE that are in charge of the current s*** show right now will have to make it so. There will be a change in leader, but the troops will remain the same. This is honestly the worst thing about the Brexit Fiasco. The empowerment, encouragement and normalisation of this cloudcuckooland blind-faith attitude. Famous politicians and celebrities are saying this stuff, and it has trickled down to the Brexit proletariat. It is, without hyperbole, the road to societal collapse. It’s the antithesis of the scientific method, of the entire modern world, of good governance, of any sort of basic preparation or project management. ‘Something will turn up’ is the feckless ethos of the pawnshop, although in the case of the pawnshop it’s usually caused by the desperation of poverty rather than propagandistic racism. Goves ‘the British people are fed up with experts’ was the most important soundbite to come out of Brexit. A special plague on that c***. Can they not imagine what it will be like when they’ve won? How will they govern without ‘expertise’ from the ‘experts’ they’ve poisoned the well against? Or will there be authorised Brexiter experts, like Pat Minford, who will be listened to? What then, when they’ve caused catastrophes with their nonsense? Do they remain in place as ‘experts’ like the WW1 Generals who’ve just sent 450,000 troops into machine gun fire in a single day and are kept around to do it all again tomorrow? Mooo, in the words of Lord Melchett.’ Made me laugh anyway.
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dannyboy1978 06 Apr 19 9.23am | |
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This is so true Attachment: VID-20190404-WA0026.mp4 (3,199.83Kb)
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dannyboy1978 06 Apr 19 9.32am | |
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Originally posted by Maine Eagle
I didnt say investing money in the state, I said money coming into the economy. You asked where we "spent" the 550 mil a week. We didnt spend it, we lost out on it, as the economy in general grew at a slower rate than it should have. Therefore with all due respect, you misunderstood the point. It has nothing to do with "investing in the state" whatever that means. But wages went up, I don't think people care Buisness needs to take less profit and pay the workers.
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Midlands Eagle 06 Apr 19 9.37am | |
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Originally posted by SW19 CPFC
‘The idiots panting we should ‘just leave’ and ‘we will be ok’ and ‘believe in Britain’ and other assorted spewey phrases of unconsidered putrid bile and fetid hot air need to remember that in order for no deal to be a success, THE SAME PEOPLE that are in charge of the current s*** show right now will have to make it so. There will be a change in leader, but the troops will remain the same. This is honestly the worst thing about the Brexit Fiasco. The empowerment, encouragement and normalisation of this cloudcuckooland blind-faith attitude. Famous politicians and celebrities are saying this stuff, and it has trickled down to the Brexit proletariat. It is, without hyperbole, the road to societal collapse. It’s the antithesis of the scientific method, of the entire modern world, of good governance, of any sort of basic preparation or project management. ‘Something will turn up’ is the feckless ethos of the pawnshop, although in the case of the pawnshop it’s usually caused by the desperation of poverty rather than propagandistic racism. Goves ‘the British people are fed up with experts’ was the most important soundbite to come out of Brexit. A special plague on that c***. Can they not imagine what it will be like when they’ve won? How will they govern without ‘expertise’ from the ‘experts’ they’ve poisoned the well against? Or will there be authorised Brexiter experts, like Pat Minford, who will be listened to? What then, when they’ve caused catastrophes with their nonsense? Do they remain in place as ‘experts’ like the WW1 Generals who’ve just sent 450,000 troops into machine gun fire in a single day and are kept around to do it all again tomorrow? Mooo, in the words of Lord Melchett.’ Made me laugh anyway. I do like an unbiased and neutral assessment
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Rudi Hedman Caterham 06 Apr 19 9.39am | |
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Originally posted by SW19 CPFC
I didn’t write this, but it partly sums up my attitude towards the hypocrisy on the leave side, and to a lesser extent the remain side flip flopping between criticising MPs then expecting them to deliver. ‘The idiots panting we should ‘just leave’ and ‘we will be ok’ and ‘believe in Britain’ and other assorted spewey phrases of unconsidered putrid bile and fetid hot air need to remember that in order for no deal to be a success, THE SAME PEOPLE that are in charge of the current s*** show right now will have to make it so. There will be a change in leader, but the troops will remain the same. This is honestly the worst thing about the Brexit Fiasco. The empowerment, encouragement and normalisation of this cloudcuckooland blind-faith attitude. Famous politicians and celebrities are saying this stuff, and it has trickled down to the Brexit proletariat. It is, without hyperbole, the road to societal collapse. It’s the antithesis of the scientific method, of the entire modern world, of good governance, of any sort of basic preparation or project management. ‘Something will turn up’ is the feckless ethos of the pawnshop, although in the case of the pawnshop it’s usually caused by the desperation of poverty rather than propagandistic racism. Goves ‘the British people are fed up with experts’ was the most important soundbite to come out of Brexit. A special plague on that c***. Can they not imagine what it will be like when they’ve won? How will they govern without ‘expertise’ from the ‘experts’ they’ve poisoned the well against? Or will there be authorised Brexiter experts, like Pat Minford, who will be listened to? What then, when they’ve caused catastrophes with their nonsense? Do they remain in place as ‘experts’ like the WW1 Generals who’ve just sent 450,000 troops into machine gun fire in a single day and are kept around to do it all again tomorrow? Mooo, in the words of Lord Melchett.’ Made me laugh anyway. Some of this I agree with, especially the cvckwits in parliament being in charge of us being okay or May’s ‘We will make a success of it’ speech. On the experts comment, I think you’re right. We should’ve joined the Euro, because we missed out on the excitement when it went t1ts up, and we should’ve listened to Mark Carney’s apocalypse speeches, only now he says it won’t be anywhere near as bad and will be okay he’s surely not an expert after all?
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