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bexleydave Flag Barnehurst 02 Jun 17 1.16pm Send a Private Message to bexleydave Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add bexleydave as a friend

Originally posted by Part Time James

The worst thing would be "We want to keep clean sheets in every game and Sakho is injured"

Yes, that must have been a difficult one

 


Bexley Dave

Can you hear the Brighton sing? I can't hear a ******* thing!

"The most arrogant, obnoxious bunch of deluded little sun tanned, loafer wearing mummy's boys I've ever had the misfortune of having to listen to" (Burnley forum)

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babylonjohn Flag St Leonards-on-Sea 02 Jun 17 1.29pm Send a Private Message to babylonjohn Add babylonjohn as a friend

The idea of getting a "long term" manager seems a pretty meaningless term to me. The only way to guarantee that someone stays is to enjoy continued success. Contracts mean little to football players and managers who will always jump ship if the grass is greener. The only people in it for the long term are us the fans.

 

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bexleydave Flag Barnehurst 02 Jun 17 1.36pm Send a Private Message to bexleydave Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add bexleydave as a friend

Originally posted by babylonjohn

The idea of getting a "long term" manager seems a pretty meaningless term to me. The only way to guarantee that someone stays is to enjoy continued success. Contracts mean little to football players and managers who will always jump ship if the grass is greener. The only people in it for the long term are us the fans.

So it's somewhat ironic that three of our managers since 2010 have left of their own volition when we're on the up.

 


Bexley Dave

Can you hear the Brighton sing? I can't hear a ******* thing!

"The most arrogant, obnoxious bunch of deluded little sun tanned, loafer wearing mummy's boys I've ever had the misfortune of having to listen to" (Burnley forum)

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scuffy Flag orpington 02 Jun 17 2.14pm Send a Private Message to scuffy Add scuffy as a friend

Sean Dyche Premier League record below…….less than a point a game. Shocking defensive record. He will relegate us.


Matches 76
Wins 18
Draws 19
Losses 39
Goals For 67
Goals Against 108

 

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Painter Flag Croydon 02 Jun 17 2.33pm Send a Private Message to Painter Add Painter as a friend

Originally posted by scuffy

Sean Dyche Premier League record below…….less than a point a game. Shocking defensive record. He will relegate us.


Matches 76
Wins 18
Draws 19
Losses 39
Goals For 67
Goals Against 108

And this is with Heaton and Keane, who are highly rated and the backbone of his defence.

 

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Spiderman Flag Horsham 02 Jun 17 2.41pm Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by Johnny Eagles

Like when he said he wasn't bothered about clean sheets!

Should have been sacked the minute he said that.

Maybe he was talking about his (alleged) extra curricular activities!!

 

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sa_eagle Flag Just outside Cape Town 02 Jun 17 2.41pm Send a Private Message to sa_eagle Add sa_eagle as a friend

Originally posted by scuffy

Sean Dyche Premier League record below…….less than a point a game. Shocking defensive record. He will relegate us.


Matches 76
Wins 18
Draws 19
Losses 39
Goals For 67
Goals Against 108

I knew there was a reason I didn't want him!

 


Cynic or realist? It's a fine line!

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bexleydave Flag Barnehurst 02 Jun 17 2.43pm Send a Private Message to bexleydave Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add bexleydave as a friend

Originally posted by scuffy

Sean Dyche Premier League record below…….less than a point a game. Shocking defensive record. He will relegate us.


Matches 76
Wins 18
Draws 19
Losses 39
Goals For 67
Goals Against 108


 


Bexley Dave

Can you hear the Brighton sing? I can't hear a ******* thing!

"The most arrogant, obnoxious bunch of deluded little sun tanned, loafer wearing mummy's boys I've ever had the misfortune of having to listen to" (Burnley forum)

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Booted Eagle Flag Bristol 02 Jun 17 2.45pm Send a Private Message to Booted Eagle Add Booted Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by babylonjohn

The idea of getting a "long term" manager seems a pretty meaningless term to me. The only way to guarantee that someone stays is to enjoy continued success. Contracts mean little to football players and managers who will always jump ship if the grass is greener. The only people in it for the long term are us the fans.

It's a results business and any manager can easily get the boot. Let's look at our recent Prem history, Ollie fell on his sword, Warnock was on a hiding to nothing and Pards was given a stay of execution due to his Palace history. Pulis and Sam walked away for various reasons, one mired the other not so. SP is being honest here, saying there will be no Pards Mark 2 but a conservative appointment, who can fully understand where the club is, players playing to their already strengths than trying something different, appreciative of budget constraints and has a good knowledge of the Prem. In relation to "long term" I don't think any owner can appoint that type of manager as it is in the lap of the footballing Gods. Interestingly his "stepping stone" comments seem to run contrary to Dyche's position at the moment, in relation to Burnley.

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leejaneagles Flag 02 Jun 17 3.08pm Send a Private Message to leejaneagles Add leejaneagles as a friend

I'm in no way decided that Dyche is a good fit but I think percentages and totals over a long term with a club like Burnley are a bit redundant.

Did he get them up? Yes. Did he get them relegated? Yes. He also then brought them back up immediately and kept them there.

If you base it on the last 2 seasons you can say he got them promoted and then safely mid-table.

With a far worse team than Palace on paper of course.

 

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bexleydave Flag Barnehurst 02 Jun 17 3.21pm Send a Private Message to bexleydave Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add bexleydave as a friend

Originally posted by leejaneagles

I'm in no way decided that Dyche is a good fit but I think percentages and totals over a long term with a club like Burnley are a bit redundant.

Did he get them up? Yes. Did he get them relegated? Yes. He also then brought them back up immediately and kept them there.

If you base it on the last 2 seasons you can say he got them promoted and then safely mid-table.

With a far worse team than Palace on paper of course.


16th is not "safely mid-table". It's a tad worse than us and Sam struggled to get keep us up after the mess Pardew left. Not recording an away win until the end of April, and that was only because we were rubbish, is not easy to ignore.

 


Bexley Dave

Can you hear the Brighton sing? I can't hear a ******* thing!

"The most arrogant, obnoxious bunch of deluded little sun tanned, loafer wearing mummy's boys I've ever had the misfortune of having to listen to" (Burnley forum)

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babylonjohn Flag St Leonards-on-Sea 02 Jun 17 3.42pm Send a Private Message to babylonjohn Add babylonjohn as a friend

Originally posted by bexleydave

So it's somewhat ironic that three of our managers since 2010 have left of their own volition when we're on the up.

By continued success I mean challenging for top six, Europe, winning cups and trophies etc. Not managing to avoid relegation.

 

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