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leifandersonshair Newport 14 Jun 16 7.03pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger Ha ha. So it's OK for Britain to fill up with Europeans as long as those Europeans aren't aging expats. At least they contributed years of national insurance while they lived here, unlike the millions who have been here for five minutes. Give me a young, hard working immigrant over an ageing expat any day. Less of a drain on the NHS, for one thing, and still working (and thus paying taxes) for another. In a perfect world Britain would be filled with people willing to work hard and contribute- regardless of nationality- with all our white, British benefit claiming chavs shipped off overseas somewhere, and swapped for some hard working foreigners. But we don't live in a perfect world. And also, how long should you expect to be in a country, working and contributing, to be considered 'one of us'? 6 months? 6 years? Or never? Immigration is not a black and white issue (no pun intended!)
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Ha ha. So it's OK for Britain to fill up with Europeans as long as those Europeans aren't aging expats.
At least they contributed years of national insurance while they lived here, unlike the millions who have been here for five minutes.

Give me a young, hard working immigrant over an ageing expat any day. Less of a drain on the NHS, for one thing, and still working (and thus paying taxes) for another.

In a perfect world Britain would be filled with people willing to work hard and contribute- regardless of nationality- with all our white, British benefit claiming chavs shipped off overseas somewhere, and swapped for some hard working foreigners. But we don't live in a perfect world.

And also, how long should you expect to be in a country, working and contributing, to be considered 'one of us'? 6 months? 6 years? Or never? Immigration is not a black and white issue (no pun intended!)

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becky over the moon 14 Jun 16 7.27pm
Originally posted by Kermit8 The biggest pressure on our services is millions of people refusing to die at 80 and thinking they have every right to go on until there are 95. Staying in houses and flats that the younger generations could have and taking up hospital time. Fatsos and smokers are up there in the blame stakes too. So if you are old, fat and smoke - you b@stard. How very dare you!... A stairway to Heaven and a Highway to Hell give some indication of expected traffic numbers
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Originally posted by Kermit8

The biggest pressure on our services is millions of people refusing to die at 80 and thinking they have every right to go on until there are 95. Staying in houses and flats that the younger generations could have and taking up hospital time. Fatsos and smokers are up there in the blame stakes too.

So if you are old, fat and smoke - you b@stard.

How very dare you!...

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Hrolf The Ganger 14 Jun 16 7.45pm
Originally posted by leifandersonshair Give me a young, hard working immigrant over an ageing expat any day. Less of a drain on the NHS, for one thing, and still working (and thus paying taxes) for another. In a perfect world Britain would be filled with people willing to work hard and contribute- regardless of nationality- with all our white, British benefit claiming chavs shipped off overseas somewhere, and swapped for some hard working foreigners. But we don't live in a perfect world. And also, how long should you expect to be in a country, working and contributing, to be considered 'one of us'? 6 months? 6 years? Or never? Immigration is not a black and white issue (no pun intended!) So all those people who probably worked hard all their lives to have a little place in the sun and contributed to our national insurance system for many years are not wort a jot in your eyes and don't deserve hospital treatment. And then you wish to reduce the working class of the country to a stereotype. I don't like your world thanks.
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Originally posted by leifandersonshair

Give me a young, hard working immigrant over an ageing expat any day. Less of a drain on the NHS, for one thing, and still working (and thus paying taxes) for another.

In a perfect world Britain would be filled with people willing to work hard and contribute- regardless of nationality- with all our white, British benefit claiming chavs shipped off overseas somewhere, and swapped for some hard working foreigners. But we don't live in a perfect world.

So all those people who probably worked hard all their lives to have a little place in the sun and contributed to our national insurance system for many years are not wort a jot in your eyes and don't deserve hospital treatment. And then you wish to reduce the working class of the country to a stereotype.

I don't like your world thanks.

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glazedallover Allier 14 Jun 16 9.23pm
Great support from the icelandics at the euros tonight. I imagine hrolf the ganger to come from that tiny viking gene pool.....
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Great support from the icelandics at the euros tonight. I imagine hrolf the ganger to come from that tiny viking gene pool.....

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Hrolf The Ganger 14 Jun 16 10.45pm
Originally posted by glazedallover Great support from the icelandics at the euros tonight. I imagine hrolf the ganger to come from that tiny viking gene pool..... The actual Hrolf came from Scandinavia and went on to become ruler of Normandy. I certainly have some Normans in my family tree but I also have a lot of other people as well. I have not done one of those DNA test things but I expect my genes are much the same as many other Brits.
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14 Jun 16 10.45pm

Originally posted by glazedallover

Great support from the icelandics at the euros tonight. I imagine hrolf the ganger to come from that tiny viking gene pool.....

The actual Hrolf came from Scandinavia and went on to become ruler of Normandy.

I certainly have some Normans in my family tree but I also have a lot of other people as well. I have not done one of those DNA test things but I expect my genes are much the same as many other Brits.

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legaleagle 14 Jun 16 11.36pm
There is some doubt as to whether Rollo, the Scandinavian who took over Normandy and was William the Conqueror's great great great grandfather,was the same person as the Norweigian Ganger Hrolf. Seems DNA tests are being carried out with Ganger Hrolf's tomb in Normandy having been opened for this purpose! Interesting though,in any event, to see the HOL Hrolf naming himself after the dynastic founder of a lineage containing such a prominent early exponent of union between European countries, albeit union against the will of the "English"
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14 Jun 16 11.36pm

There is some doubt as to whether Rollo, the Scandinavian who took over Normandy and was William the Conqueror's great great great grandfather,was the same person as the Norweigian Ganger Hrolf.

Seems DNA tests are being carried out with Ganger Hrolf's tomb in Normandy having been opened for this purpose!

Interesting though,in any event, to see the HOL Hrolf naming himself after the dynastic founder of a lineage containing such a prominent early exponent of union between European countries, albeit union against the will of the "English"

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DivingIsNotGood se25 15 Jun 16 8.07am
Originally posted by Kermit8 What's the problem with 1m higher level Turkish being able to visit Britain without a visa? They won't all be booking the same flight or knocking at your door the following morning. They'll be spending their dosh here too. Britain clears path to further Turkey EU membership talks [Link] VOTING OUT - Brexit will allow Britain to embrace the Commonwealth and be GREAT again
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Originally posted by Kermit8

What's the problem with 1m higher level Turkish being able to visit Britain without a visa? They won't all be booking the same flight or knocking at your door the following morning. They'll be spending their dosh here too.

Britain clears path to further Turkey EU membership talks
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VOTING OUT - Brexit will allow Britain to embrace the Commonwealth and be GREAT again

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Kermit8 Hevon 15 Jun 16 8.16am
Originally posted by DivingIsNotGood Britain clears path to further Turkey EU membership talks [Link] Turkey fails in many areas for the basic criteria needed to be able to join and those areas are not going to be suitably adjusted anytime soon. You are ScaremongeringIsNotGood. Remain Big chest and massive boobs [Link]
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Originally posted by DivingIsNotGood

Britain clears path to further Turkey EU membership talks
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Turkey fails in many areas for the basic criteria needed to be able to join and those areas are not going to be suitably adjusted anytime soon. You are ScaremongeringIsNotGood.

Remain

Big chest and massive boobs

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DivingIsNotGood se25 15 Jun 16 9.04am
If remain win Turkey will be fast tracked. It will happen and nothing anyone in the UK can do about it. Out of our hands. -You'reSusceptibilityIsNotGood VOTING OUT - Brexit will allow Britain to embrace the Commonwealth and be GREAT again
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se25 15 Jun 16 9.04am

If remain win Turkey will be fast tracked. It will happen and nothing anyone in the UK can do about it. Out of our hands.

-You'reSusceptibilityIsNotGood

VOTING OUT - Brexit will allow Britain to embrace the Commonwealth and be GREAT again

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Rubin 15 Jun 16 9.09am
Originally posted by Kermit8 Turkey fails in many areas for the basic criteria needed to be able to join and those areas are not going to be suitably adjusted anytime soon. You are ScaremongeringIsNotGood. Remain [Link]
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Rubin

15 Jun 16 9.09am

Originally posted by Kermit8

Turkey fails in many areas for the basic criteria needed to be able to join and those areas are not going to be suitably adjusted anytime soon. You are ScaremongeringIsNotGood.

Remain

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DivingIsNotGood se25 15 Jun 16 9.35am
Kermit tell me you are at least middle-aged, work hard for a living, support your kids through uni etc and not some spotty teenager living off the bank of dad under their roof? VOTING OUT - Brexit will allow Britain to embrace the Commonwealth and be GREAT again
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se25 15 Jun 16 9.35am

Kermit tell me you are at least middle-aged, work hard for a living, support your kids through uni etc and not some spotty teenager living off the bank of dad under their roof?

VOTING OUT - Brexit will allow Britain to embrace the Commonwealth and be GREAT again

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DivingIsNotGood se25 15 Jun 16 9.35am
Originally posted by Rubin [Link] [Link] VOTING OUT - Brexit will allow Britain to embrace the Commonwealth and be GREAT again
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Originally posted by Rubin

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