I want to believe all of what you claim about May, I really do. But you do not achieve high political office in any country by being as stupid as you claim she is.

It simply does not wash. Personally, and here I accept I am right into the conspiracy s***, I suspect her husband has played a huge role in all of this because they are in many ways a real 'power' couple. I accept that I am socially conservative with old fashioned views but I inherently distrust the motives of any politician who does not have children. I know that can be pulled to pieces in all sorts of ways but that is my gut instinct and nothing will ever change that.

May is shrewd, with an incredibly thick skin (by all political conventions she should have gone even though she won the leadership challenge because of the amount of votes cast against her) and she does not come back to us with a deal that she knows is going to fail without having a bloody good reason.

The DUP alone are reason it is a non-starter. And the DUP are the real deal when it comes to politics. This is not a game for them and I am sure they all still have to check underneath their cars for bombs along with knowing both victims and perpetrators of terrorist killings. They are a cut above your usual self serving political types we get in the UK. I am not defending them, and have never understood all that sectarian nonsense but they don't back down easily. She would have known that.

Yes, some of the ERG did back it but I suspect they worked out what was happening. Again, these are not silly people (nobody who makes it Parliament should ever be underestimated) and I believe worked it out too late.

Revoking A50 was never a goer. They need a second referendum to offer them at least a veneer of democratic accountability. May gets the Labour Party to give her that, with the backlash shared equally between them both.

In someways it deserves kudos for the cunning.

So why have we been doing well economically compared to many in the EU?

Well....for your statement to hold true though...you do kind of have to compare us.

The reality is that economically we compare favorably in the EU......So if 'uncertainty' leads to higher growth rates than Germany and France.....Lets have some more uncertainty please.

To be serious though, in truth, it's true that certainty for business would be better. However, it's also true that the EU isn't everything and that the indicators for the UK are generally good.....partly because we don't have the awful EU bureaucratic invention of the Mark...eh I meant to say 'Euro' restricting the operation of the economy.

Because....you know.....having control of your own country and not giving huge centralising power away overseas is generally considered a good idea.

Edited by Stirlingsays (05 Apr 2019 3.24pm)

It depends what the government of the day decides to do with the money. It could be Labour! And that's the whole point of Brexit. The UK decides how to spend our taxes – not Brussels.

Are you struck with the irony there, as I am?

This whole thing was about giving power back to parliament, and all they have shown in the last 3 years while trying to debate that return of power, is how inept they are at dispensing power.

Par for the course I'm afraid

Trouble is people listen to charlatans like this idiot

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Who is basically saying we should cause chaos if we get a longer extension, but the EU are helping us and as soon as the deal is reached we can leave

Probably because the more chaos and uncertainty the more profits for his hedge funds