This page is no longer updated, and is the old forum. For new topics visit the New HOL forum.
BBC (again)
Register | Edit Profile | Subscriptions | Forum Rules | Log In
 Stirlingsays  18 Jul 22 3.07pm |
   |
|---|---|
|
I'm not someone who is heavily invested in the climate change debate for several reasons. However, what I will say is only follow the science, that doesn't follow the money.
'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen) |
|
 Alert a moderator to this post |
  |
| Mapletree Croydon 18 Jul 22 3.59pm |
|
|---|---|
|
Originally posted by Stirlingsays
I'm not someone who is heavily invested in the climate change debate for several reasons. However, what I will say is only follow the science, that doesn't follow the money. A 2019 review of scientific papers found the consensus on the cause of climate change to be at 100%, and a 2021 study concluded that over 99% of scientific papers agree on the human cause of climate change. Papers that disagreed with the consensus either cannot be replicated or contain errors. I suppose they are all in the pay of the conspirators.
|
|
| Alert a moderator to this post |
|
cryrst  The garden of England 18 Jul 22 4.13pm |
|
|---|---|
|
Originally posted by Mapletree
FFS Of course every scientist is an idiot and you know best Stuff like this is merely part of the big scare story. It's a conspiracy to control us buffoons, perpetrated by all the scientists in the field (for some reason). Scientists have examined greenhouse gases in the context of the past. Analysis of air trapped inside ice that has been accumulating over time in Antarctica shows that the CO2 concentration began to increase significantly in the 19th century, after staying in the range of 260 to 280 ppm for the previous 10,000 years. Ice core records extending back 800,000 years show that during that time, CO2 concentrations remained within the range of 170 to 300 ppm throughout many “ice age” cycles and no concentration above 300 ppm is seen in ice core records until the past 200 years. Estimating global average surface air temperature increase requires careful analysis of millions of measurements from around the world, including from land stations, ships, and satellites. Despite the many complications of synthesising such data, multiple independent teams have concluded separately and unanimously that global average surface air temperature has risen by about 1 °C (1.8 °F) since 1900. Although the record shows several pauses and accelerations in the increasing trend, each of the last four decades has been warmer than any other decade in the instrumental record since 1850. Going further back in time before accurate thermometers were widely available, temperatures can be reconstructed using climate-sensitive indicators “proxies” in materials such as tree rings, ice cores, and marine sediments. Comparisons of the thermometer record with these proxy measurements suggest that the time since the early 1980s has been the warmest 40-year period in at least eight centuries, and that global temperature is rising towards peak temperatures last seen 5,000 to 10,000 years ago in the warmest part of our current interglacial period. Edited by Mapletree (18 Jul 2022 2.58pm) So what are you saying? It’s not bollox !
|
|
| Alert a moderator to this post |
|
PalazioVecchio  south pole 18 Jul 22 4.37pm |
|
|---|---|
|
Originally posted by Stirlingsays
I'm not someone who is heavily invested in the climate change debate for several reasons. However, what I will say is only follow the science, that doesn't follow the money. on the one hand Scientists pursue the Truth. On the other, they pursue the salary their bosses tell them to pursue. Scientists now tell us about Climate Change. Remember the scientists paid by the tobacco or the wine-trade to lie to us ?
Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford |
|
| Alert a moderator to this post |
|
| Mapletree Croydon 18 Jul 22 4.40pm |
|
|---|---|
|
Originally posted by cryrst
So what are you saying? It’s not bollox ! Tell you what, go for a walk tomorrow between 1pm and 4pm without any sun screen. Then report back. Or alternatively take a look at this, it's pretty pictures so nice and simple The ice caps are warming four times as fast as the rest of the planet and that REALLY matters.
|
|
| Alert a moderator to this post |
|
| Mapletree Croydon 18 Jul 22 4.44pm |
|
|---|---|
|
Originally posted by PalazioVecchio
on the one hand Scientists pursue the Truth. On the other, they pursue the salary their bosses tell them to pursue. Scientists now tell us about Climate Change. Remember the scientists paid by the tobacco or the wine-trade to lie to us ? Are you trying to say climate change is a lie? And that all scientists have the same pay master? On another note, how would you like to buy some of my recently created and highly efficacious huile de python?
|
|
| Alert a moderator to this post |
|
Attachment: | Stirlingsays 18 Jul 22 4.46pm |
|
|---|---|
|
Originally posted by Mapletree
A 2019 review of scientific papers found the consensus on the cause of climate change to be at 100%, and a 2021 study concluded that over 99% of scientific papers agree on the human cause of climate change. Papers that disagreed with the consensus either cannot be replicated or contain errors. I suppose they are all in the pay of the conspirators. I'm not really weighing in on the debate. Only to say that this kind of consensus has been reached before many times in the past. My statement that objectivity can only be reached away from funding remains true.
'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen) |
|
| Alert a moderator to this post |
|
| cryrst The garden of England 18 Jul 22 4.51pm |
|
|---|---|
|
Originally posted by Mapletree
Tell you what, go for a walk tomorrow between 1pm and 4pm without any sun screen. Then report back. Or alternatively take a look at this, it's pretty pictures so nice and simple The ice caps are warming four times as fast as the rest of the planet and that REALLY matters. Well firstly I’m servicing some rather large boilers tomorrow so I can trump that.
|
|
| Alert a moderator to this post |
|
| W12 18 Jul 22 4.54pm | |
|---|---|
|
Originally posted by Mapletree
Are you trying to say climate change is a lie? And that all scientists have the same pay master? On another note, how would you like to buy some of my recently created and highly efficacious huile de python? It's not all scientists though is it. The only difference is that these scientists do not receive funding to come to predetermined conclusions. The climate doom mongers have been at it for years and literally none of the their predictions have been realised. The whole narrative is just another fear campaign set up in order to justify a further transfer of wealth, power and property rights to billionaire Oligarchs.
|
|
| Alert a moderator to this post |
|
| cryrst The garden of England 18 Jul 22 4.58pm |
|
|---|---|
|
Originally posted by W12
It's not all scientists though is it. The only difference is that these scientists do not receive funding to come to predetermined conclusions. The climate doom mongers have been at it for years and literally none of the their predictions have been realised. The whole narrative is just another fear campaign set up in order to justify a further transfer of wealth, power and property rights to billionaire Oligarchs. But they’re not funny looking Scandinavian girls who have got very rich along with her parents.
|
|
| Alert a moderator to this post |
|
| Mapletree Croydon 18 Jul 22 5.15pm |
|
|---|---|
|
Originally posted by PalazioVecchio
Remember the scientists paid by the tobacco or the wine-trade to lie to us ? Those scientists started to build their cases in response to a much larger group of scientists becoming alarmed by tobacco. A very different situation when 100% of climate scientists agree. But hey, I may as well yell down a well. Some people think they are being objective when in fact they are simply gullible. Want to buy some huile de python?
|
|
| Alert a moderator to this post |
|
| Mapletree Croydon 18 Jul 22 5.19pm |
|
|---|---|
|
Originally posted by W12
It's not all scientists though is it. The only difference is that these scientists do not receive funding to come to predetermined conclusions. The climate doom mongers have been at it for years and literally none of the their predictions have been realised. The whole narrative is just another fear campaign set up in order to justify a further transfer of wealth, power and property rights to billionaire Oligarchs. You are simply being feckin idiotic. Yes, the doom sayers are being proved right. I can't get into your link but clearly you didn't read mine. 100% of scientists agreed and 97% of articles. The 3% were articles that lacked scientific rigour. What on earth is wrong with you. You want to bury your head in sand until it's too late? Or do you actually realise that tomorrow will be the hottest day on record but not care because, hey, if we all end up living in deserts you will be too old to care. I have you down as selfish, you simply can't be as stupid as you pretend ''Some sceptics have suggested that the authors of studies indicating that climate change is not real, not harmful, or not man-made are bravely standing up for the truth, like maverick thinkers of the past. (Galileo is often invoked, though his fellow scientists mostly agreed with his conclusions—it was church leaders who tried to suppress them.) Not so, according to a review published in the journal of Theoretical and Applied Climatology. The researchers tried to replicate the results of those 3% of papers—a common way to test scientific studies—and found biased, faulty results. Katharine Hayhoe, an atmospheric scientist at Texas Tech University, worked with a team of researchers to look at the 38 papers published in peer-reviewed journals in the last decade that denied anthropogenic global warming. “Every single one of those analyses had an error—in their assumptions, methodology, or analysis—that, when corrected, brought their results into line with the scientific consensus,” Edited by Mapletree (18 Jul 2022 5.25pm) Edited by Mapletree (18 Jul 2022 6.19pm)
|
|
| Alert a moderator to this post |
|
Login / RegisterNew users
Registration is now on our new message board
Existing users
To login with your existing username you will need to convert your account over to the new message board.
Sponsors
All images and text on this site are copyright © 1999-2024 The Holmesdale Online, unless otherwise stated.
Web Design by Guntrisoft Ltd.