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DanH Flag SW2 11 Nov 20 4.36pm Send a Private Message to DanH Add DanH as a friend

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

What I never understood was DanH’s claim that hiring ethnic minorities over white people even if they weren’t better for the job brought something extra professionally into an accountancy firm?

Call it what it is and as he’s explained it - positive discrimination. If he’s not an equal opportunities employer he’s allowed to do that, I think.

Edited by Rudi Hedman (11 Nov 2020 3.58pm)

Always weird how you lot read what you want to read rather than what is actually written.

I said I did not think a team made up of entirely white male clones was healthy or would be successful in our industry and markets; same as a team made up entirely of Asian female clones wouldn't be.

A team reflective of modern society, our clients and the markets we operate in is. And has continued to be throughout 2020 despite everything going on.

Edited by DanH (11 Nov 2020 4.37pm)

 

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DanH Flag SW2 11 Nov 20 4.45pm Send a Private Message to DanH Add DanH as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays


Dan thinks he's a good guy, I don't think he likes to examine criticism of his beliefs too closely....it doesn't compute with his brainwashing.....which is why it was a tad amusing when he accused Hrolf of 'knots you will twist yourself in to justify your own mind'.

Self awareness fail.

Yep I'm the brainwashed one when basically every opinion you have or 'stat' you quote can be traced back to some alt-right non-entity who has had to put a lock on the door to stop his mum coming in to pick up his w*nk sock for washing while he's filming for his YouTube channel.

 

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Stirlingsays Flag 11 Nov 20 4.52pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by DanH

Always weird how you lot read what you want to read rather than what is actually written.

I said I did not think a team made up of entirely white male clones was healthy or would be successful in our industry and markets; same as a team made up entirely of Asian female clones wouldn't be.

A team reflective of modern society, our clients and the markets we operate in is. And has continued to be throughout 2020 despite everything going on.

Edited by DanH (11 Nov 2020 4.37pm)

All based on ideology not meritocracy.....the idea that you employ upon racial mix instead of the best person at the job is nuts.

The left and race are the most identitarian out there....race, race, race. Even the alt right don't go as far.

As for its effectiveness? I doubt your company even is an accurate reflection anyway because it's not an easy task. It's all claptrap, remember all those terribly performing companies of the past because I don't......oh how badly all those non diverse Korean and Chinese companies are doing.

Employ the best person for the job and forget their race......I thought that was actually employment law, but hey, maybe's it's changed.

 


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Maine Eagle Flag USA 11 Nov 20 4.53pm Send a Private Message to Maine Eagle Add Maine Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

It's a good post but we will see....But as for Democrats asking for any 'sharing' or cooperation.... we have 2016-2020 as evidence of that double standard.

That said, if Biden does win....I'm sure there will be late cooperation in the handover....but at the moment the Republicans are far from finished.

I am talking specifically about presidential power transitions, not politics in general.

Even after Trump propagating the birther lie, causing many death threats and Obama's kids to be endangered, Barack Obama showed grace and dignity in handing over power to Trump.

There is no cooperation in politics today, but Trump is the reason. With him gone, Biden may rekindle historical relationships with Moscow Mitch and Lindsey, to return to some kind of post Newt Gingrich normalcy.

Perhaps President Biden can start to move politics back into some kind of working format. We shall see.

 


Trump lost. Badly. Hahahahahahaha.

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Maine Eagle Flag USA 11 Nov 20 4.55pm Send a Private Message to Maine Eagle Add Maine Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by DanH

Yep I'm the brainwashed one when basically every opinion you have or 'stat' you quote can be traced back to some alt-right non-entity who has had to put a lock on the door to stop his mum coming in to pick up his w*nk sock for washing while he's filming for his YouTube channel.

Its not often a post on here actually has me in stitches...well played.

 


Trump lost. Badly. Hahahahahahaha.

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Stirlingsays Flag 11 Nov 20 4.55pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by DanH

Yep I'm the brainwashed one when basically every opinion you have or 'stat' you quote can be traced back to some alt-right non-entity who has had to put a lock on the door to stop his mum coming in to pick up his w*nk sock for washing while he's filming for his YouTube channel.

Are you referring to the now millionaire Sargon?

As accurate as most of your brainwashed commentary Dan.

Stick on an Ali G video and enjoy another soy latte mate.

 


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Stirlingsays Flag 11 Nov 20 4.58pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Maine Eagle

Its not often a post on here actually has me in stitches...well played.

Stitches? They certainly aren't joking when they say the left have finished comedy.


 


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Stirlingsays Flag 11 Nov 20 5.01pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Maine Eagle

I am talking specifically about presidential power transitions, not politics in general.

Even after Trump propagating the birther lie, causing many death threats and Obama's kids to be endangered, Barack Obama showed grace and dignity in handing over power to Trump.

There is no cooperation in politics today, but Trump is the reason. With him gone, Biden may rekindle historical relationships with Moscow Mitch and Lindsey, to return to some kind of post Newt Gingrich normalcy.

Perhaps President Biden can start to move politics back into some kind of working format. We shall see.

Obama was an arsehole in many ways but he was reasonable over transition I'll give you that.....However, he hadn't had anything like what Trump dealt with.

As I said, the Democrats will reap what they sowed. Their justifications only work for their own supporters.

Edited by Stirlingsays (11 Nov 2020 5.02pm)

 


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SavoyTruffle Flag 11 Nov 20 5.09pm Send a Private Message to SavoyTruffle Add SavoyTruffle as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

There's some good points in your reply but I think your mockery shows the reality of the two Americas that now exist....you're right that it would be have been no better on the other foot.....but then again, I'm not the person thinking Democratic 'policy' will draw people away from republicans.....I think you will get the opposite reaction....Anyone with sense knows that if Biden keeps his promises he is going to raise taxes on the middle class....there is no 'healing', the Democrats have no legitimacy in even asking for that after how they have behaved these last four years...they will reap what they sowed.

Modern Democratic policy is economic ruin, especially the 'woke' lot....which is most of the party. I will say that Trump was also spending like mad but the difference was he was creating jobs and increasing GDP to keep pace.

Trump was a businessman first and foremost, he didn't let idealism get in the way of that....unfortunately the Democrats are all about idealism before pragmatism.

The Democrats are going to increase spending even more but unlike Trump we are not going to see the same levels of economic upturns.....the berk is even talking about lockdowns.

Edited by Stirlingsays (11 Nov 2020 2.50pm)

Nationally Medicare for All polls at over 60%, it increases to just below 70% for a public option health care plan, even Fox News ran exit polls on election night showing overwhelming support for these kinds of policy positions as well as other traditional Democratic policy positions (attached). Likewise, raising minimum wage to $15 won in Florida on a ballot measure despite the state staying Red.

If the Dems weren't afraid to lean into these issues they would do a lot better, unfortunately there isn't the political will from the GOP or Dems for these kinds of measures because it's not what the donor class permit. Instead both parties choose to fight it out on cultural issues because ultimately this is what the people who fund their campaigns prefer as it keeps the heat off them.

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Stirlingsays Flag 11 Nov 20 5.17pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by SavoyTruffle

Nationally Medicare for All polls at over 60%, it increases to just below 70% for a public option health care plan, even Fox News ran exit polls on election night showing overwhelming support for these kinds of policy positions as well as other traditional Democratic policy positions (attached). Likewise, raising minimum wage to won in Florida on a ballot measure despite the state staying Red.

If the Dems weren't afraid to lean into these issues they would do a lot better, unfortunately there isn't the political will from the GOP or Dems for these kinds of measures because it's not what the donor class permit. Instead both parties choose to fight it out on cultural issues because ultimately this is what the people who fund their campaigns prefer as it keeps the heat off them.

I'd probably agree with you on most aspects here regarding the US medical system.....I'm probably more with the Democrats on that one.

With the caveat that this is for them of course.

However I'd say that with how the US system is structured moving to single payer or some version of it is going to wipe out an entire industry and affect many others. It would take them years to get to the cheaper and better system we have...and there would be large transitional costs...in some ways our system is worse than theirs but better in others...and a lot fairer in a national sense (though the Democrats seem to think beyond national borders).

If I were in the Democratic party right now (ha...they would probably shoot me) I'd be focused fully on economic recovery and healthcare would be down the list.....though I recognise that for the affected healthcare is a hyper serious system in the US.

How popular Democratic changes to the medical system will be with taxpayers will be interesting to see.....though I doubt they will get any legislation through in Biden's time.

Edited by Stirlingsays (11 Nov 2020 5.24pm)

 


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DanH Flag SW2 11 Nov 20 5.22pm Send a Private Message to DanH Add DanH as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

All based on ideology not meritocracy.....the idea that you employ upon racial mix instead of the best person at the job is nuts.

The left and race are the most identitarian out there....race, race, race. Even the alt right don't go as far.

As for its effectiveness? I doubt your company even is an accurate reflection anyway because it's not an easy task. It's all claptrap, remember all those terribly performing companies of the past because I don't......oh how badly all those non diverse Korean and Chinese companies are doing.

Employ the best person for the job and forget their race......I thought that was actually employment law, but hey, maybe's it's changed.

Again, reading what you want to read rather than what's written.

We hire the best person for the job and role available at the time and who fits best into the team. That encompasses a whole myriad of different factors.

 

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Stirlingsays Flag 11 Nov 20 5.30pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by DanH

Again, reading what you want to read rather than what's written.

We hire the best person for the job and role available at the time and who fits best into the team. That encompasses a whole myriad of different factors.

You were quite candid and honest originally.

Now you want to fall back to meaningless waffle.....I don't blame you in a way....nasty times, but then again, times you justify yourself.

 


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