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Hrolf The Ganger 02 Apr 19 3.02pm | |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
That is so right, and of course manifesto promises are broken all the time, not that they are not meant but because government brings a new world of reality. It's very entertaining when a man as far left as you excuse away the corruption of the establishment when it suits your agenda. Shouldn't you be knocking down the door of Parliament in the name of revolution?
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steeleye20 Croydon 02 Apr 19 3.07pm | |
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Originally posted by Pussay Patrol
Throwing facts at a brexiter is like throwing holy water on a vampire To think they would accept Mays deal is incredulous.
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Rudi Hedman Caterham 02 Apr 19 3.34pm | |
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Originally posted by Maine Eagle
Business has a voice, that is the way of the world. Democracy is not what happened in 2016. An undeliverable vote happened in 2016. Guess what, 3 years later, it is still undeliverable. A vote which cannot be delivered on, is undemocratic, one could argue? I spent the first 25 years of my life living in Britain. It’s only undeliverable because mp’s choose not to deliver it. The referendum was a promise. It’s been broken.
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steeleye20 Croydon 02 Apr 19 3.37pm | |
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MPs seek to stop no-deal Brexit by tabling article 50 bill. Labour’s Yvette Cooper to table bill aiming to ensure UK cannot exit EU with no deal by default Last ditch as we cannot rely on the PMs word, no deal was rejected by a distance a couple of weeks ago.
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Hrolf The Ganger 02 Apr 19 3.42pm | |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
MPs seek to stop no-deal Brexit by tabling article 50 bill. Labour’s Yvette Cooper to table bill aiming to ensure UK cannot exit EU with no deal by default Last ditch as we cannot rely on the PMs word, no deal was rejected by a distance a couple of weeks ago.
Voting against democracy. new New Labour.
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Hrolf The Ganger 02 Apr 19 3.51pm | |
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Originally posted by Maine Eagle
Business has a voice, that is the way of the world. Democracy is not what happened in 2016. An undeliverable vote happened in 2016. Guess what, 3 years later, it is still undeliverable. A vote which cannot be delivered on, is undemocratic, one could argue? I spent the first 25 years of my life living in Britain. You moved away from Britain but you want to tell all of us who are still here how our country should be run. Wonderful. I understand why you don't think it was democracy in 2016. It is because you lost. The Labour Party had a chance to avoid a referendum by winning the last election. It lost. You could have elected Hillary Clinton in the last US election. She lost. Do you see a pattern here? 'The people' don't want your brand of politics.
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steeleye20 Croydon 02 Apr 19 4.22pm | |
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Fromage not Farage. My favourite brie cheese actually is tesco's finest from Cornwall. Just shows how patriotic remainers are.
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Maine Eagle USA 02 Apr 19 4.34pm | |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
It’s only undeliverable because mp’s choose not to deliver it. The referendum was a promise. It’s been broken. The big myth. MPs all have their own different versions of how to deliver it, and thus 3 years later there is no consensus. Why do they all have their own different versions? Because the vote in 2016 doesnt pick any of them. What a shocker.
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Midlands Eagle 02 Apr 19 4.37pm | |
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Originally posted by Maine Eagle
Why do they all have their own different versions? Because the vote in 2016 doesnt pick any of them. What a shocker. I think that the main reasons why people voted to leave the EU were a mixture of getting rid of freedom of movement of people and becoming masters of our own destiny. How many of the many plans discussed incorporate those two aspects? Any of them?
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Maine Eagle USA 02 Apr 19 4.38pm | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
You moved away from Britain but you want to tell all of us who are still here how our country should be run. Wonderful. I understand why you don't think it was democracy in 2016. It is because you lost. The Labour Party had a chance to avoid a referendum by winning the last election. It lost. You could have elected Hillary Clinton in the last US election. She lost. Do you see a pattern here? 'The people' don't want your brand of politics. Hillary won the popular vote. So the people did want my brand, sorry, you are completely and utterly wrong. Might want to read on how the electoral college works. She got more votes, so by definition, the people wanted her. I am no big fan of Hillary, dont get me wrong, but she got more votes mate. Anyway, Hrolf, I am just as British as you so my opinion counts just the same as yours. In fact it counts just the same as the residents of the inner city slums which you dont like, they are just as British as both of us, the ones born here/naturalized at least. I know your idea of a way forward is a totalitarian regime where people who dont agree with you are denied a vote, but that is how the khmer rouge works, not the UK parliament. Hrolf the supreme overlord has a nice ring to it, but this is a democracy not a dictatorship.
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Hrolf The Ganger 02 Apr 19 4.40pm | |
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Originally posted by Maine Eagle
The big myth. MPs all have their own different versions of how to deliver it, and thus 3 years later there is no consensus. Why do they all have their own different versions? Because the vote in 2016 doesnt pick any of them. What a shocker. I guess it's easy to take this position when it doesn't affect you. Strange how you spend so much time promoting a second referendum in a country where you no longer live. Puzzling.
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Maine Eagle USA 02 Apr 19 4.43pm | |
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Yvette Cooper is simply trying to prevent the utter catastrophe of no deal. In her opinion (she is entitled to one) and as shared by MANY experts, no deal would be seriously bad f&cking news. She wont stand idly by while we slide unwillingly into a no deal crash out of the EU, which will definitely cost jobs and cause economic woes of epic proportions. I am sorry to point out but a large majority of business leaders including the head of the TUC and CBI, not to mention virtually every boss of a large multinational thinks no deal would be a monumental disaster for the country. That idiotic boss of Weatherspoons thinks its a great plan but I guess thats because recessions and mass job losses get people boozing more to drown their sorrows.
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