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 cryrst  The garden of England 12 Oct 18 9.26pm |
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Originally posted by lefty27
None of your links are remotely relevant to the debate. Would that also be a respect to decisions of where to send them to fight.
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Stirlingsays  12 Oct 18 10.24pm |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
It is easy to forget the NI situation before the Good Friday agreement. Like it or not NI has been stable - their people are much more prosperous, really we don't want to take any risks at all here.
We have essentially given up Northern Ireland and are allowing Catholics to build up populations in unionist areas......which essentially will end unionism.
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| dannyboy1978 14 Oct 18 2.10pm |
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Really interesting.
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| Stirlingsays 14 Oct 18 3.34pm |
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Originally posted by dannyboy1978
Really interesting.
The only one willing to put himself out there. And we get snobs bitching about him being thick and not good enough for them when they do feck all.
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| Stirlingsays 14 Oct 18 3.37pm |
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Video describing the hypocrisy and agenda of the UK media on how they report on Robinson. Oh....and when you watch the video.....you'll understand how the reported death of John Lennon....was actually just one big scam.....He went onto Youtube. Edited by Stirlingsays (14 Oct 2018 3.40pm)
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PalazioVecchio  south pole 14 Oct 18 4.22pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
We have essentially given up Northern Ireland and are allowing Catholics to build up populations in unionist areas......which essentially will end unionism. would those be the areas that were robbed from Catholics 400 years ago ? robbed and then colonised in the name of the Crown ? its hardly a parallel analogy to what is happening in Luton today.
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| Stirlingsays 14 Oct 18 4.56pm |
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Originally posted by PalazioVecchio
would those be the areas that were robbed from Catholics 400 years ago ? robbed and then colonised in the name of the Crown ? its hardly a parallel analogy to what is happening in Luton today.
And at some point they robbed it from someone else....at what point does blood and soil changeover? We either put a line and in the sand and say this is British and mean it and limit the integration of those who would vote for a united Ireland.....Or we pull that line away and say it is Irish and say to the unionists....come home. I would prefer the first but accept the second. What we don't do.....Well no...no what we actually did do.....Is implicitly say, 'this is British'....but we are going to change all the systems to include the catholics and increase their demographics in NI.... until they have effectively colonized it and made it Irish in fifty years......then we shuffle away like cowards. I don't like lying to people.....That's what the UK did to the unionists......with plausible deniability...like the true cowards do. Edited by Stirlingsays (14 Oct 2018 4.59pm)
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| PalazioVecchio south pole 14 Oct 18 5.08pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
And at some point they robbed it from someone else....at what point does blood and soil changeover? We either put a line and in the sand and say this is British and mean it and limit the integration of those who would vote for a united Ireland.....Or we pull that line away and say it is Irish and say to the unionists....come home. I would prefer the first but accept the second. What we don't do.....Well no...no what we actually did do.....Is implicitly say, 'this is British'....but we are going to change all the systems to include the catholics and increase their demographics in NI.... until they have effectively colonized it and made it Irish in fifty years......then we shuffle away like cowards. I don't like lying to people.....That's what the UK did to the unionists......with plausible deniability...like the true cowards do. Edited by Stirlingsays (14 Oct 2018 4.59pm) demographics eh ? the womb is mightier than the bomb.
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| Stirlingsays 14 Oct 18 5.14pm |
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Originally posted by PalazioVecchio
demographics eh ? the womb is mightier than the bomb. You know it.
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| Badger11 Beckenham 14 Oct 18 6.10pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
And at some point they robbed it from someone else....at what point does blood and soil changeover? We either put a line and in the sand and say this is British and mean it and limit the integration of those who would vote for a united Ireland.....Or we pull that line away and say it is Irish and say to the unionists....come home. I would prefer the first but accept the second. What we don't do.....Well no...no what we actually did do.....Is implicitly say, 'this is British'....but we are going to change all the systems to include the catholics and increase their demographics in NI.... until they have effectively colonized it and made it Irish in fifty years......then we shuffle away like cowards. I don't like lying to people.....That's what the UK did to the unionists......with plausible deniability...like the true cowards do. Edited by Stirlingsays (14 Oct 2018 4.59pm) If history tells us anything it is that Ireland must solves its problems through democratic means. Ask someone from Eire would they like a united Ireland and they will probably say yes. Ask the same person how they would feel if this was against the wishes of the north and you might get a different answer. Even if the north democratically votes for a united Ireland rather like the remainers you would still have a sizable number of people who will oppose it and not accept it. Eire was largely unscathed during the recent troubles but if the protestants turn to violence I fear it would lead to yet another bloody civil war on that island even worse than the recent troubles.
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| Stirlingsays 14 Oct 18 8.13pm |
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Democracy without strict immigration means you lose your country. Japan knew that.....They have a higher GDP than us yet kept their nation. In a hundred years time Japan will still be Japanese. In a hundred years time England will only be part English. In longer time scales I doubt the name England will even be seen as an accurate description. Edited by Stirlingsays (14 Oct 2018 8.14pm)
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| PalazioVecchio south pole 14 Oct 18 8.16pm |
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not sure about the relevance of Ulster to Tommy R. except of course that civil strife begets civil strife and that at best, its best avoided at nearly all costs. Places like Luton in 2018 are not a role model of how best to run a laizzez-faire society. Without policy, chaos can ensue.
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