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W12 17 Jul 22 8.40pm
Originally posted by cryrst Tbh I don’t need backing in to a corner; I normally paint myself in very well thankyou as you’ve probably read a few times . The point on here is we arnt all as learned as some and certain posters should be clever enough to realise that, not rinse the ones who, and I admit with myself are not as learned. Literal language is how I and others post. You seem like a very decent fellow so good for you. I’ll leave it at that.
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W12 17 Jul 22 8.40pm

Originally posted by cryrst

Tbh I don’t need backing in to a corner; I normally paint myself in very well thankyou as you’ve probably read a few times . The point on here is we arnt all as learned as some and certain posters should be clever enough to realise that, not rinse the ones who, and I admit with myself are not as learned. Literal language is how I and others post.

You seem like a very decent fellow so good for you. I’ll leave it at that.

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PalazioVecchio south pole 17 Jul 22 11.14pm
Originally posted by cryrst Ok here we go Pay attention kids, it's not science it's politics. I've been listening to this crap for 50 years. 1960's - Oil gone in 10 years 1970's - another ice age in 10 years 1980's - acid rain will destroy all crops in 10 years 1990's - The ozone layer will be destroyed in 10 years 2000's - The icecaps will be gone in 10 years None happened, but all resulted in more taxes. 1984......soon everybody will be dead from Hiv/AIDS Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford
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Originally posted by cryrst

Ok here we go

Pay attention kids, it's not science it's politics.
I've been listening to this crap for 50 years.
1960's - Oil gone in 10 years
1970's - another ice age in 10 years
1980's - acid rain will destroy all crops
in 10 years
1990's - The ozone layer will be
destroyed in 10 years
2000's - The icecaps will be gone in
10 years
None happened, but all resulted in
more taxes.

1984......soon everybody will be dead from Hiv/AIDS

Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford

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cryrst The garden of England 18 Jul 22 7.45am
Originally posted by PalazioVecchio 1984......soon everybody will be dead from Hiv/AIDS Yup almost forgot that one. Back in late 70s early 80s a loaf of bread was going to be a tenner at the turn of the century. Funny how predictions about the future are so wrong. Makes you wonder if global warming is bollox …..
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The garden of England 18 Jul 22 7.45am

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

1984......soon everybody will be dead from Hiv/AIDS

Yup almost forgot that one. Back in late 70s early 80s a loaf of bread was going to be a tenner at the turn of the century. Funny how predictions about the future are so wrong. Makes you wonder if global warming is bollox …..

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W12 18 Jul 22 7.48am
Originally posted by PalazioVecchio 1984......soon everybody will be dead from Hiv/AIDS AIDS always was a scam to sell expensive drugs and look who was central to that: [Link]
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W12 18 Jul 22 7.48am

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

1984......soon everybody will be dead from Hiv/AIDS

AIDS always was a scam to sell expensive drugs and look who was central to that:

[Link]

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W12 18 Jul 22 8.02am
Also note that the BBC is predicting 41 degrees this week when the met office isn't. [Link] The word "may" doing all the heavy lifting. [Link] These are perfectly normal summer temperatures yet the BBC continues to push the netzero agenda.
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W12 18 Jul 22 8.02am

Also note that the BBC is predicting 41 degrees this week when the met office isn't.

[Link]

The word "may" doing all the heavy lifting.

[Link]

These are perfectly normal summer temperatures yet the BBC continues to push the netzero agenda.

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Wilesy01 Bristol 18 Jul 22 11.08am
Originally posted by W12 Also note that the BBC is predicting 41 degrees this week when the met office isn't. [Link] The word "may" doing all the heavy lifting. [Link] These are perfectly normal summer temperatures yet the BBC continues to push the netzero agenda. The current temperatures aren't normal for this time of year in the UK, are they? Nor are the temperatures in many other places in Europe/across the world at the moment. Can you just admit you've gone off the end of the pier with climate denial conspiracies and have done with it?
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Bristol 18 Jul 22 11.08am

Originally posted by W12

Also note that the BBC is predicting 41 degrees this week when the met office isn't.

[Link]

The word "may" doing all the heavy lifting.

[Link]

These are perfectly normal summer temperatures yet the BBC continues to push the netzero agenda.

The current temperatures aren't normal for this time of year in the UK, are they?

Nor are the temperatures in many other places in Europe/across the world at the moment.

Can you just admit you've gone off the end of the pier with climate denial conspiracies and have done with it?

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W12 18 Jul 22 11.25am
Originally posted by Wilesy01 The current temperatures aren't normal for this time of year in the UK, are they? Nor are the temperatures in many other places in Europe/across the world at the moment. Can you just admit you've gone off the end of the pier with climate denial conspiracies and have done with it? Yes they are "climate denial" - listen to yourself Edited by W12 (18 Jul 2022 11.25am)
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W12 18 Jul 22 11.25am

Originally posted by Wilesy01

The current temperatures aren't normal for this time of year in the UK, are they?

Nor are the temperatures in many other places in Europe/across the world at the moment.

Can you just admit you've gone off the end of the pier with climate denial conspiracies and have done with it?

Yes they are

"climate denial" - listen to yourself

Edited by W12 (18 Jul 2022 11.25am)

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cryrst The garden of England 18 Jul 22 11.26am
Originally posted by Wilesy01 The current temperatures aren't normal for this time of year in the UK, are they? Nor are the temperatures in many other places in Europe/across the world at the moment. Can you just admit you've gone off the end of the pier with climate denial conspiracies and have done with it? So if you think it’s bollox your not allowed to say. Is that how you want it? Science isn’t determined by numbers or yes men. Look for professionals who also think it’s bollox and all been cancelled or sacked etc. why do you think that is. Surely both sides of the issue should be able to be discussed without fear of being finished for life.
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The garden of England 18 Jul 22 11.26am

Originally posted by Wilesy01

The current temperatures aren't normal for this time of year in the UK, are they?

Nor are the temperatures in many other places in Europe/across the world at the moment.

Can you just admit you've gone off the end of the pier with climate denial conspiracies and have done with it?

So if you think it’s bollox your not allowed to say. Is that how you want it?
Science isn’t determined by numbers or yes men. Look for professionals who also think it’s bollox and all been cancelled or sacked etc. why do you think that is. Surely both sides of the issue should be able to be discussed without fear of being finished for life.

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silvertop Portishead 18 Jul 22 11.43am
Originally posted by W12 Globalism is the current ideology of the ruling elite (although I hate that phrase) It is defined by many factors but including: 1. Open borders (free movement of capital, services and people) 2. Equity, Diversity and Inclusion (removal of traditional social norms) 3. Technocracy (rule by experts and algorithms) 4. Transhumanism (integration of humans with machines) 5. Global governance (central planning, global digital identity, single currency, single tax system, digitisation of everything etc) This is summed up by the books and speeches of Yuval Noah Harari and is very much an ideology (clue is in the "ism" ). The only problem I have with it is, as with all utopian thinking , a complete dystopia in the making. Edited by W12 (28 Jun 2022 10.26am) Oh I (rather belatedly) get it. Like with many ideologies, a lot in there is probably pretty good. Open borders I like, for instance... but to a point. As the experience of the Poles in recent years evidences, the flow can be two ways and evidences the operation of free market economic checks and balances and an efficient and buoyant market. However, border control (presumably anti-globalist?) is also a good thing, as some flows can only be one way; and there has to be a good economic case to justify that (not made to my knowledge). Some stuff appears pretty scary on the face of it (4 looks like a move to a world dominated by the Cybermen); but is that more fear of the unknown - an inertia that mankind has faced since time immemorial. They have not all turned out bad.
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Portishead 18 Jul 22 11.43am

Originally posted by W12

Globalism is the current ideology of the ruling elite (although I hate that phrase)

It is defined by many factors but including:

1. Open borders (free movement of capital, services and people)
2. Equity, Diversity and Inclusion (removal of traditional social norms)
3. Technocracy (rule by experts and algorithms)
4. Transhumanism (integration of humans with machines)
5. Global governance (central planning, global digital identity, single currency, single tax system, digitisation of everything etc)

This is summed up by the books and speeches of Yuval Noah Harari and is very much an ideology (clue is in the "ism" ).

The only problem I have with it is, as with all utopian thinking , a complete dystopia in the making.

Edited by W12 (28 Jun 2022 10.26am)

Oh I (rather belatedly) get it.

Like with many ideologies, a lot in there is probably pretty good. Open borders I like, for instance... but to a point. As the experience of the Poles in recent years evidences, the flow can be two ways and evidences the operation of free market economic checks and balances and an efficient and buoyant market. However, border control (presumably anti-globalist?) is also a good thing, as some flows can only be one way; and there has to be a good economic case to justify that (not made to my knowledge).

Some stuff appears pretty scary on the face of it (4 looks like a move to a world dominated by the Cybermen); but is that more fear of the unknown - an inertia that mankind has faced since time immemorial. They have not all turned out bad.

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W12 18 Jul 22 11.58am
Originally posted by silvertop Oh I (rather belatedly) get it. Like with many ideologies, a lot in there is probably pretty good. Open borders I like, for instance... but to a point. As the experience of the Poles in recent years evidences, the flow can be two ways and evidences the operation of free market economic checks and balances and an efficient and buoyant market. However, border control (presumably anti-globalist?) is also a good thing, as some flows can only be one way; and there has to be a good economic case to justify that (not made to my knowledge). Some stuff appears pretty scary on the face of it (4 looks like a move to a world dominated by the Cybermen); but is that more fear of the unknown - an inertia that mankind has faced since time immemorial. They have not all turned out bad. You cannot have open borders and "free" social care. The two are antithetical. Also, it's immoral to force this on people. Transhumanism is actually key to the ideology because these people are so insane that they want to merge with technology due to the impending predicted "singularity" which is when computers overtake humans in term of cognitive function (mid 2040's) which will likely be enabled by the rise of quantum computers. They don't want to be left behind. An obviously solution like simply not developing truly intelligent computers does not even occur to them. That's what you get with pure scientism without a moral foundation such as Christianity - just because you can do something, it doesn't mean that you should. Edited by W12 (18 Jul 2022 11.58am)
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W12 18 Jul 22 11.58am

Originally posted by silvertop

Oh I (rather belatedly) get it.

You cannot have open borders and "free" social care. The two are antithetical. Also, it's immoral to force this on people.

Transhumanism is actually key to the ideology because these people are so insane that they want to merge with technology due to the impending predicted "singularity" which is when computers overtake humans in term of cognitive function (mid 2040's) which will likely be enabled by the rise of quantum computers. They don't want to be left behind. An obviously solution like simply not developing truly intelligent computers does not even occur to them. That's what you get with pure scientism without a moral foundation such as Christianity - just because you can do something, it doesn't mean that you should.

Edited by W12 (18 Jul 2022 11.58am)

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PalazioVecchio south pole 18 Jul 22 12.04pm
Originally posted by W12 You cannot have open borders and "free" social care. The two are antithetical. Also, it's immoral to force this on people. Edited by W12 (18 Jul 2022 11.58am) so a fella cannot travel from a low-tax country to get dole/healthcare in a high-tax country ? maybe you should tell somebody at the BBC ? it seems they never read the memo. Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford
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south pole 18 Jul 22 12.04pm

Originally posted by W12

You cannot have open borders and "free" social care. The two are antithetical. Also, it's immoral to force this on people.

Edited by W12 (18 Jul 2022 11.58am)

so a fella cannot travel from a low-tax country to get dole/healthcare in a high-tax country ?

maybe you should tell somebody at the BBC ? it seems they never read the memo.

Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford

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Stirlingsays 18 Jul 22 1.43pm
300,000 people stopped paying the BBC TV licence fee last year. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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18 Jul 22 1.43pm

300,000 people stopped paying the BBC TV licence fee last year.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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