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susmik Flag PLYMOUTH -But Made in Old Coulsdon... 07 Oct 17 11.42am Send a Private Message to susmik Add susmik as a friend

Originally posted by EagleEssex

Ignoring the little girl comment, lets look at it constructively.
Our defence is terrible at the moment and that will affect any keeper's confidence.

But if Wayne comes back from international duty with renewed confidence, maybe some of it will rub off on our defenders.

You could look at it in another way.. Is our defence not good because they have a terrible goalkeeper behind THEM ????

 


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susmik Flag PLYMOUTH -But Made in Old Coulsdon... 07 Oct 17 11.45am Send a Private Message to susmik Add susmik as a friend

Originally posted by EagleEssex

What does it say about me, out of interest?
CPJ has already provided the stats to show that Hennessey has statistically been a slightly better keeper than Speroni in the Premier League, but both are decent keepers.
Furthermore, examples from tonight's game, whether you're interested in Wales or not, re-inforce Hennessey's premier league pedigree. Why should we ignore international games just because you have zero interest?
I would say international games are an ideal opportunity to assess how a player plays in/under a different team/manager/system and learn from that.

Ah come on cpj could drum up figures from any where to just prove he is right. The one and only way to see how good Wayne is is to look at where we were last season in the table and where we are this season...He aint doing a very good job as a keeper is he??

 


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susmik Flag PLYMOUTH -But Made in Old Coulsdon... 07 Oct 17 11.47am Send a Private Message to susmik Add susmik as a friend

Originally posted by Rachid Rachid Rachid

The fact that you use the word hate because I think he's not very good. I don't hate him.

Over the last eighteen months our league form has been shocking save for a couple of short spells. This started with a 3-0 defeat at home by Chelsea when he spilled the third goal followed by the fabled Villa game and then him diving over the ball from a 30 yard shot at City to put them 1-0 up. All in the space of eight days IIRC.

Off the top of my head he was poor for City's winner at home last season when he laid on the floor in no mans land from a corner. Showed too much of the goal to Ibrahimovic for his winner and allowed a soft Swansea shot to go under his body for their winner at home. He was at fault for Costa's goal at home. A poor performance away to West Ham, at fault for Sunderland's first and then beaten too easily by Defoe's first (their third). He was questioned for Eriksson's winner that beat him on the floor from thirty yards

I could go on but, as I've said before he's slow, has poor reactions, lacks bravery, fails to make use of his frame and his handling is questionable. His kicking is great.

GK is one of the most important positions in the team. Don't kid yourself he's not one of the reasons we're in the position we are now. Not even sure he's Championship level despite being in his prime.

Hence the reason he gets so much stick from us fans.

 


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Painter Flag Croydon 07 Oct 17 12.34pm Send a Private Message to Painter Add Painter as a friend

Originally posted by susmik

You could look at it in another way.. Is our defence not good because they have a terrible goalkeeper behind THEM ????

Doesn't seem to effect the Welsh defence, so it shows our defence needs to improve. We have 2 fullbacks that cannot defend in Ward and PVA. If you looking for the plight we are in, you need to look beyond the goalkeeper.

 

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cpj Flag Kent 07 Oct 17 12.56pm Send a Private Message to cpj Add cpj as a friend

Originally posted by susmik

Ah come on cpj could drum up figures from any where to just prove he is right. The one and only way to see how good Wayne is is to look at where we were last season in the table and where we are this season...He aint doing a very good job as a keeper is he??

Take that back! Those stats are from the official Premier League site. Sorry if they don't agree with your opinion. So in your opinion the only difference between last season and this is WH playing badly???? Have you seen our 'goals for' column? Incredible.

 

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Brentmiester_General Flag Front line in the battle against t... 07 Oct 17 12.58pm

Originally posted by cpj

Take that back! Those stats are from the official Premier League site. Sorry if they don't agree with your opinion. So in your opinion the only difference between last season and this is WH playing badly???? Have you seen our 'goals for' column? Incredible.

The goals for coloumn is only a recent problem. Our plight since WH has been in goal isn't.

 


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Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 07 Oct 17 1.28pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by susmik

You could look at it in another way.. Is our defence not good because they have a terrible goalkeeper behind THEM ????

He might have his foibles but I really think it is 'Over-egging' it by saying Hennessey is "Terrible".

Edited by Willo (07 Oct 2017 1.29pm)

 

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Casual Flag Orpington 07 Oct 17 1.37pm Send a Private Message to Casual Add Casual as a friend

Originally posted by Painter

Doesn't seem to effect the Welsh defence, so it shows our defence needs to improve. We have 2 fullbacks that cannot defend in Ward and PVA. If you looking for the plight we are in, you need to look beyond the goalkeeper.

We have got 2 sh*t full backs and a joke of a goalkeeper. 3 out of the 5 defenders not being good enough is a problem.
Need Mensah at right back and a new left back (could do with wasting a few more million on a left back! ) and a new keeper.

 

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Uphill Flag Bedford 07 Oct 17 1.39pm Send a Private Message to Uphill Add Uphill as a friend

I hate perpetuating this sterile thread but I venture to suggest that the Wales defence is far, far better than ours and thus Hennessey plays with greater confidence. Confidence breeds success and we just don't have it.
He is not to blame for our disastrous start and to suggest that replacing him with the best in the world (whoever that is) would make any difference is deluding themselves. Even Sakho is looking lost in a sea of mediocrity. Sacking de Boer after just 4 games was plain silly and now we have a failed ex England manager (I know, they all are 'failed'!) who already seems to be out of his depth (as against Iceland)

 

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cpj Flag Kent 07 Oct 17 1.54pm Send a Private Message to cpj Add cpj as a friend

Originally posted by Brentmiester_General

The goals for coloumn is only a recent problem. Our plight since WH has been in goal isn't.

Stop it now. He's been in goal for most of the last 2 seasons, with a similar record to Speroni. Yes, if we got De Gea, Lloris, Courtpis, Heaton or Pickford then it would be an improvement but that isn't going to happen.

 

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susmik Flag PLYMOUTH -But Made in Old Coulsdon... 07 Oct 17 1.55pm Send a Private Message to susmik Add susmik as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

He might have his foibles but I really think it is 'Over-egging' it by saying Hennessey is "Terrible".

Edited by Willo (07 Oct 2017 1.29pm)

It was in reply to EagleEssex if you read the thread willo the word terrible was used by him. I just reversed the comment!

 


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Painter Flag Croydon 07 Oct 17 4.36pm Send a Private Message to Painter Add Painter as a friend

Originally posted by Casual

We have got 2 sh*t full backs and a joke of a goalkeeper. 3 out of the 5 defenders not being good enough is a problem.
Need Mensah at right back and a new left back (could do with wasting a few more million on a left back! ) and a new keeper.

You appear to miss the obvious, Hennessey is fine playing behind Welsh defence, not Palaces. Therefore is not Hennessey that is the problem, but Palaces defence, its just so obvious.
These facts don't fit some peoples agendas, but facts are facts.

 

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