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 Teddy Eagle  24 Jul 24 10.59pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
There are explanations which explain and there are explanations that are actually excuses. Full stops end sentences. They don’t end context. New chapters do that, or here, new comments, or even new paragraphs which make it plain a different subject is being addressed. You might think your meaning was clear. I can assure you it was not and still believe that was the intention. I’ll leave it there though. There are more interesting things happening. We can add cognitive dissonance to the diagnosis then.
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Wisbech Eagle  Truro Cornwall 24 Jul 24 11.10pm |
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Biden will speak to the nation from the White House at 1am our time. Much as I am interested to hear what he has to say, that’s too late for me but I will catch up in the morning. No doubt he will both explain his reasoning and provide support for Harris.
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cryrst  The garden of England 25 Jul 24 12.12am |
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Originally posted by nead1
Exactly; I wonder if people who push this type of nonsense ever stop to ponder why DEI matters so much to very large corporates, all forms of government organisations and many other forms of organisation alike? I wonder if it might have anything to do with DEI policies/practices being seen as an essential element of competitive advantage? It isn’t that it’s not needed in some capacity, maybe if in a meritocratic choice of candidate but it just seems to trump meritocracy in its purest sense which is a fundamental rule of employment. Innocent mistakes and good story tellers slip through but are found out. If you are hired deliberately under the DEI banner your quality is never judged. Only your DEI which is somewhat unfair.
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| Badger11 Beckenham 25 Jul 24 8.04am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Biden will speak to the nation from the White House at 1am our time. Much as I am interested to hear what he has to say, that’s too late for me but I will catch up in the morning. No doubt he will both explain his reasoning and provide support for Harris. Or not, it was just word salad.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 25 Jul 24 8.46am |
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Originally posted by Badger11
Or not, it was just word salad. I haven’t heard, or read, the full speech yet, but I have watched the “highlights”. He said nothing new, but, after thinking about it, he wasn’t going to. He was caught between a rock and a hard place. Having made the announcement whilst recovering from Covid he needed to say something on his return to the WH. Saying anything new would just add potential opportunities to Trump to exploit with his silly insulting style. Everyone knows what was left unsaid. He resigned because of the pressure on him to do so. His task in 2020, as it was now, as was Clinton’s in 2016 and is now Harris’s is to avoid 4 years of a totally unsuitable person becoming President. Clinton failed, as a result of a disinformation campaign and the promise of the unknown. Biden succeeded but due to his age and obviously increasing frailty looked like failing this time. So replacing him became necessary. What’s more important than the instantly forgettable speech was Trump’s reaction to it, describing it as “barely understandable”. It certainly didn’t match the oratory of someone like Martin Luther King, as Biden has never been an orator, but it did its job in the quiet way intended. Now I expect him to stay out of the limelight, just attending to duties with his team around him. No need to campaign. That can now be left to Harris and the whole of the DNC. Trump’s approach to Harris appears to be doubling down on his standard style of stupid rhetoric, yesterday describing her as a “radical left lunatic”. This seems to me to be a very silly approach. It won’t impress anyone who isn’t already committed to voting for him, who might roar and wave flags at rallies, but can only vote once. She clearly isn’t of the radical left at all. Nor a lunatic. She has weaknesses, but they aren’t them.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 25 Jul 24 9.00am |
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Originally posted by cryrst
It isn’t that it’s not needed in some capacity, maybe if in a meritocratic choice of candidate but it just seems to trump meritocracy in its purest sense which is a fundamental rule of employment. Innocent mistakes and good story tellers slip through but are found out. If you are hired deliberately under the DEI banner your quality is never judged. Only your DEI which is somewhat unfair. The point I was making is how terms like this, when picked and used by the right in the USA as a form of abuse, suddenly start appearing here too. On your broader point merit should always be the key to decision making in recruitment if you want to employ the best you can. The problem is that long established, often unrecognised, societal biases about groups of people can, and do, get in the way of truly assessing merit. It’s those biases that need to be recognised and addressed and that’s what the push in this area is all about. I heard a lady yesterday, on Radio 4, tell her life story as a female engineer and describe the reasons why there are still so few. Which goes back to schooling and the options that girls and boys are offered and the training that teachers are given. If some of the best potential engineers are never given the opportunity to show their merit, how can they be chosen?
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| Teddy Eagle 25 Jul 24 9.07am |
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 Hrolf The Ganger 25 Jul 24 9.22am |
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A ploy?
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 25 Jul 24 9.26am |
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It is. The question is why? My instinctive response is to try to put pressure on her but as I cannot see too many of their members voting for Trump I doubt that will change her approach. Getting them out to vote is the biggest challenge she faces.
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| Teddy Eagle 25 Jul 24 9.38am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
It is. The question is why? My instinctive response is to try to put pressure on her but as I cannot see too many of their members voting for Trump I doubt that will change her approach. Getting them out to vote is the biggest challenge she faces. Their concern is more with the process than the candidate.
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| Hrolf The Ganger 25 Jul 24 10.02am |
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Since when did Black Lives Matter Matter? They are a corrupt quasi Marxist organisation who represent a tiny percentage of the population's opinion. Who is working their strings?
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 25 Jul 24 10.11am |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Since when did Black Lives Matter Matter? They are a corrupt quasi Marxist organisation who represent a tiny percentage of the population's opinion. Who is working their strings? For an organisation that doesn’t matter they produce an awful lot of outrage and vitriol from the right.
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