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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 25 Dec 23 10.28am
Originally posted by The groover My avoid the drop target is still 32 points. Looking at our run of games its unfortunate that we have played teams on good runs. Our home defeats have come V Liverpool, Bournemouth, Everton, Spurs. Its easy to say we haven't won in 11 but we have come very close to getting additional draws and even wins during that time. I'm still not concerned. Supporters with whom I have engaged in debate have experienced optimism draining out of them.
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Willo

South coast - west of Brighton. 25 Dec 23 10.28am

Originally posted by The groover

My avoid the drop target is still 32 points.

Looking at our run of games its unfortunate that we have played teams on good runs.

Our home defeats have come V Liverpool, Bournemouth, Everton, Spurs.

Its easy to say we haven't won in 11 but we have come very close to getting additional draws and even wins during that time.

I'm still not concerned.

Supporters with whom I have engaged in debate have experienced optimism draining out of them.

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PatrickA London 25 Dec 23 10.40am
Our run of form for nearly the whole calendar year has been poor other than for brief spells at the end of last season and the beginning of this season. Perhaps there's a statistician other there that can produce the info on results post World Cup but I doubt it makes good reading. If this is correct it would indicate that those two bright spells are untypical and for most of the year we have been pretty woeful. It's also worth noting that it's a very similar squad which has been turning in these performances too.
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PatrickA

London 25 Dec 23 10.40am

Our run of form for nearly the whole calendar year has been poor other than for brief spells at the end of last season and the beginning of this season.
Perhaps there's a statistician other there that can produce the info on results post World Cup but I doubt it makes good reading.
If this is correct it would indicate that those two bright spells are untypical and for most of the year we have been pretty woeful.
It's also worth noting that it's a very similar squad which has been turning in these performances too.

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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 25 Dec 23 11.58am
Originally posted by PatrickA Our run of form for nearly the whole calendar year has been poor other than for brief spells at the end of last season and the beginning of this season. Perhaps there's a statistician other there that can produce the info on results post World Cup but I doubt it makes good reading. If this is correct it would indicate that those two bright spells are untypical and for most of the year we have been pretty woeful. It's also worth noting that it's a very similar squad which has been turning in these performances too. Words 'Stale' and 'Moribund' immediately spring to mind. In terms of performances, I am reminded of a term I once heard, 'Yawneroo'. 'Net zero' entertainment. I simply cannot wait for the next home game !!!! Edited by Willo (25 Dec 2023 11.59am)
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Willo

South coast - west of Brighton. 25 Dec 23 11.58am

Originally posted by PatrickA

Our run of form for nearly the whole calendar year has been poor other than for brief spells at the end of last season and the beginning of this season.
Perhaps there's a statistician other there that can produce the info on results post World Cup but I doubt it makes good reading.
If this is correct it would indicate that those two bright spells are untypical and for most of the year we have been pretty woeful.
It's also worth noting that it's a very similar squad which has been turning in these performances too.

Words 'Stale' and 'Moribund' immediately spring to mind.
In terms of performances, I am reminded of a term I once heard, 'Yawneroo'. 'Net zero' entertainment.
I simply cannot wait for the next home game !!!!

Edited by Willo (25 Dec 2023 11.59am)

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Jacey 25 Dec 23 7.33pm
The first four games on Boxing Day have some relevance to us and indeed,should Luton beat Sheffield,they will only be three points away from us with a game in hand. Not a happy scenario.
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Jacey

25 Dec 23 7.33pm

The first four games on Boxing Day have some relevance to us and indeed,should Luton beat Sheffield,they will only be three points away from us with a game in hand.
Not a happy scenario.

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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 25 Dec 23 10.09pm
Originally posted by Jacey The first four games on Boxing Day have some relevance to us and indeed,should Luton beat Sheffield,they will only be three points away from us with a game in hand. Not a happy scenario. Sheff Utd who are at Home, beat Brentford in their last home game and they will be encouraged by their recent 1-1 draw at A.Villa. Luton have only won 1 away game all season.
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Willo

South coast - west of Brighton. 25 Dec 23 10.09pm

Originally posted by Jacey

The first four games on Boxing Day have some relevance to us and indeed,should Luton beat Sheffield,they will only be three points away from us with a game in hand.
Not a happy scenario.

Sheff Utd who are at Home, beat Brentford in their last home game and they will be encouraged by their recent 1-1 draw at A.Villa.
Luton have only won 1 away game all season.

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Davepalace707 Northumberland 26 Dec 23 8.11am
Originally posted by PatrickA Our run of form for nearly the whole calendar year has been poor other than for brief spells at the end of last season and the beginning of this season. Perhaps there's a statistician other there that can produce the info on results post World Cup but I doubt it makes good reading. If this is correct it would indicate that those two bright spells are untypical and for most of the year we have been pretty woeful. It's also worth noting that it's a very similar squad which has been turning in these performances too. Man City have won the same number of trophies (4) in 2023 as Palace have won home games. So when we do win a home game and someone says it feels like winning the cup….
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Davepalace707

Northumberland 26 Dec 23 8.11am

Originally posted by PatrickA

Man City have won the same number of trophies (4) in 2023 as Palace have won home games. So when we do win a home game and someone says it feels like winning the cup….

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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 26 Dec 23 8.42am
Originally posted by Davepalace707 Man City have won the same number of trophies (4) in 2023 as Palace have won home games. So when we do win a home game and someone says it feels like winning the cup…. I am seriously considering whether it is worth my while undergoing a 4 hour round trip at my ripe age to witness our team failing to secure victories on the back of moribund performances. A long journey home in the dark in sometimes inclement weather after yet another defeat or draw is probably not advantageous to my well-being, in fact this supporter since the 60s does not look forward to attending games at Selhurst Park any longer. Perhaps in the not too distant future this situation will change!
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Willo

South coast - west of Brighton. 26 Dec 23 8.42am

Originally posted by Davepalace707

Man City have won the same number of trophies (4) in 2023 as Palace have won home games. So when we do win a home game and someone says it feels like winning the cup….

I am seriously considering whether it is worth my while undergoing a 4 hour round trip at my ripe age to witness our team failing to secure victories on the back of moribund performances.

A long journey home in the dark in sometimes inclement weather after yet another defeat or draw is probably not advantageous to my well-being, in fact this supporter since the 60s does not look forward to attending games at Selhurst Park any longer.
Perhaps in the not too distant future this situation will change!

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Badger11 Beckenham 26 Dec 23 8.56am
Originally posted by Willo I am seriously considering whether it is worth my while undergoing a 4 hour round trip at my ripe age to witness our team failing to secure victories on the back of moribund performances. A long journey home in the dark in sometimes inclement weather after yet another defeat or draw is probably not advantageous to my well-being, in fact this supporter since the 60s does not look forward to attending games at Selhurst Park any longer. Perhaps in the not too distant future this situation will change! I shall be watching on Amazon Prime. One more point
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Badger11

Beckenham 26 Dec 23 8.56am

Originally posted by Willo

I am seriously considering whether it is worth my while undergoing a 4 hour round trip at my ripe age to witness our team failing to secure victories on the back of moribund performances.

I shall be watching on Amazon Prime.

One more point

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taylors lovechild 26 Dec 23 9.03am
I have moaned about Royball reappearing this season, but the fact Olise and Eze have not completed 90 minutes together is a massive issue for a squad with such limitations. If their injuries continue then we are in serious trouble without any notable reinforcements. If however they can both stay fit this time then I think we'll be fine (providing Eze plays in the middle!) If the club also come up trumps with a quality holding midfielder then I think we'll be comfortable. A lot of ifs and buts at the moment though.
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I have moaned about Royball reappearing this season, but the fact Olise and Eze have not completed 90 minutes together is a massive issue for a squad with such limitations. If their injuries continue then we are in serious trouble without any notable reinforcements. If however they can both stay fit this time then I think we'll be fine (providing Eze plays in the middle!) If the club also come up trumps with a quality holding midfielder then I think we'll be comfortable. A lot of ifs and buts at the moment though.

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Davepalace707 Northumberland 26 Dec 23 9.14am
I think we’ll win on Saturday. Don’t miss that one.
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Davepalace707

Northumberland 26 Dec 23 9.14am

I think we’ll win on Saturday. Don’t miss that one.

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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 26 Dec 23 9.42am
Originally posted by taylors lovechild I have moaned about Royball reappearing this season, but the fact Olise and Eze have not completed 90 minutes together is a massive issue for a squad with such limitations. If their injuries continue then we are in serious trouble without any notable reinforcements. If however they can both stay fit this time then I think we'll be fine (providing Eze plays in the middle!) If the club also come up trumps with a quality holding midfielder then I think we'll be comfortable. A lot of ifs and buts at the moment though. I agree with the general thrust of these sentiments. The fact that Olise and Eze have had injuries and have hardly played together this season has been hugely detrimental to our chances of securing victories. At present the 'Mood music' is not one of optimism and the 'Direction of travel' not encouraging.
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Willo

South coast - west of Brighton. 26 Dec 23 9.42am

Originally posted by taylors lovechild

I agree with the general thrust of these sentiments.

The fact that Olise and Eze have had injuries and have hardly played together this season has been hugely detrimental to our chances of securing victories.
At present the 'Mood music' is not one of optimism and the 'Direction of travel' not encouraging.

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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 26 Dec 23 11.01am
Originally posted by taylors lovechild I have moaned about Royball reappearing this season, but the fact Olise and Eze have not completed 90 minutes together is a massive issue for a squad with such limitations. If their injuries continue then we are in serious trouble without any notable reinforcements. If however they can both stay fit this time then I think we'll be fine (providing Eze plays in the middle!) If the club also come up trumps with a quality holding midfielder then I think we'll be comfortable. A lot of ifs and buts at the moment though. It was in pre-season in conversation with someone I suggested Dominic Solanke but the response focussed on his poor goal return last campaign. I also suggested midfielder Pierre Ekwah whom Sunderland signed from W.Ham.I was informed that the deal included a sell-on and buy-back clause.He impressed me when I saw him plough his furrow for Sunderland. More recently I have suggested AFC Wimbledon striker Ali Al-Hamadi whom the club signed from Wycombe Wanderers. Edited by Willo (26 Dec 2023 11.02am)
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Willo

South coast - west of Brighton. 26 Dec 23 11.01am

Originally posted by taylors lovechild

I have moaned about Royball reappearing this season, but the fact Olise and Eze have not completed 90 minutes together is a massive issue for a squad with such limitations. If their injuries continue then we are in serious trouble without any notable reinforcements. If however they can both stay fit this time then I think we'll be fine (providing Eze plays in the middle!) If the club also come up trumps with a quality holding midfielder then I think we'll be comfortable. A lot of ifs and buts at the moment though.

It was in pre-season in conversation with someone I suggested Dominic Solanke but the response focussed on his poor goal return last campaign.

I also suggested midfielder Pierre Ekwah whom Sunderland signed from W.Ham.I was informed that the deal included a sell-on and buy-back clause.He impressed me when I saw him plough his furrow for Sunderland.

More recently I have suggested AFC Wimbledon striker Ali Al-Hamadi whom the club signed from Wycombe Wanderers.

Edited by Willo (26 Dec 2023 11.02am)

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