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Teddy Eagle Flag 07 Nov 23 5.03pm Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by eagleman13

Great analysis.
Wasn't it TV, Pundits, Managers, FANS & finally players who ALL wanted this, look where we are, mayhem, distrust, & enjoyment out the window

When it was initially talked about it seemed like a way of making things a bit fairer by helping with Big Club bias but it's become something else. The time added is another element -:when the ball is only in play for about 45 minutes adding another ten or more with the players standing around getting cold is no good.

 

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Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 07 Nov 23 5.19pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

In terms of "Clear and obvious", in testing there was no unanimity with different VARs forming different opinions due to the 'Subjectivity' aspect of the decision making.

In terms of the VAR it is not a question of "Do I think the decision is right or wrong?" but, "Does the decision of the referee constitute a clear and obvious error?"

VAR was never going to be a panacea - what is irksome to supporters are the breaks in play whist decisions are forensically analysed for in some cases what appears an eternity and the fact that one has to wait to see if a goal has been scored or not.


Edited by Willo (07 Nov 2023 6.00pm)

 

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Elpis Flag In a pub 07 Nov 23 7.47pm Send a Private Message to Elpis Add Elpis as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

I was asking because you said it Would lead to poor decisions at the end of games when teams have run out of 'challenges '.
If the challenges were upheld they'd still be available. It works pretty well in cricket for wrong L.B.W. and caught behind decisions.

Sorry I thought you said goals

Cricket is a different sport based on appeals to the umpire not referees who make decisions without prompting
So if the challenges are not upheld you go back to the refs decision is final with no help from VAR if there is dodgy situation and if they are upheld you get continuous challenges . As I said chaos

 

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Teddy Eagle Flag 07 Nov 23 11.03pm Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend


AI to the rescue.

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Elpis Flag In a pub 08 Nov 23 5.51am Send a Private Message to Elpis Add Elpis as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle


AI to the rescue.

[Link]

There will be robots playing the game before we know it ,do you think we will get a decent centre forward

 

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Teddy Eagle Flag 08 Nov 23 7.13am Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Elpis

There will be robots playing the game before we know it ,do you think we will get a decent centre forward

More likely everyone else will have shape shifting Terminators and we'll get R2-D2 and a busted down Robbie the Robot.

 

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Spiderman Flag Horsham 08 Nov 23 7.34am Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

More likely everyone else will have shape shifting Terminators and we'll get R2-D2 and a busted down Robbie the Robot.

Surely given our name, we would sign CP3O

 

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Teddy Eagle Flag 08 Nov 23 7.36am Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Spiderman

Surely given our name, we would sign CP3O

He's more mobile than some we've had.

 

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Nicholas91 Flag The Democratic Republic of Kent 08 Nov 23 3.05pm Send a Private Message to Nicholas91 Add Nicholas91 as a friend

Originally posted by Spiderman

Surely given our name, we would sign CP3O

I think our policy veers away from signings 30+.

 


Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

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YT Flag Oxford 08 Nov 23 6.04pm Send a Private Message to YT Add YT as a friend

Originally posted by Spiderman

Surely given our name, we would sign CP3O

Couldn't we upgrade to CP1861 ?

 


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Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 09 Nov 23 10.15am Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

The view of Neil Warnock :

VAR is killing the PL with the way it’s implemented.

The unique joy for players/fans when a goal is scored has gone

It’s making referees lazy and unaccountable

It’s overused and making the game feel artificial

For me, the @EFL is much more enjoyable to watch without VAR.

 

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Teddy Eagle Flag 09 Nov 23 10.34am Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

The view of Neil Warnock :

VAR is killing the PL with the way it’s implemented.

The unique joy for players/fans when a goal is scored has gone

It’s making referees lazy and unaccountable

It’s overused and making the game feel artificial

For me, the @EFL is much more enjoyable to watch without VAR.

Hard to disagree with any of those points.
The way VAR is implemented in European competitions seems to be a lot better than in England both in the way it's implemented and the time it takes.

 

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