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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 29 May 23 8.26pm | |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
Well 8 billion years is a pretty long time but...no.
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 29 May 23 8.57pm | |
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Originally posted by PalazioVecchio
consider the boys who did the 7/7 bombings in London. Had they grown up with some Polish-Christian neighbours, or French-African or Chinese Buddhist..........then maybe they would not have gone over to radical-Islam. it is very dangerous for any society to have a ''them and us'' attitude. Northern Ireland, The Balkans, 1930s Germany. Immigration is the cause, lack of Integration is the subsequent problem. And getting onto 'Lack of Integration' .... we must be tolerant and tolerate cultures that refuse to allow their women to Integrate with British Men ? Either by 'their women' being locked up in a kitchen or them living 5,000 miles away. is that equitable ? does that lead to a better society ? a society with a male-biased gender balance will always be violent and edgy. Such are the lessons of History & sociology. Edited by PalazioVecchio (29 May 2023 4.30pm) I agree that things are far from perfect and that single-culture ghettos need to be broken up in some way, but all is not lost. The UK is not a stone age backwater. So long as we ensure all children are taught the national curriculum, including our culture and history, they won't end up being indoctrinated. I would go further and make all schools secular with world religions taught as one subject. Having non-immigrant friends and watching UK TV changes attitudes. The boys start supporting British football teams and the girls start to resist being treated as possessions. You can see this happening already. It's not complete and there will be many setbacks on the way, but given time, patience and effort it will change. We need to encourage that change and welcome those who do with love and acceptance, rather than drive them back into the dark with endless criticism.
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 29 May 23 9.01pm | |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
One nanosecond after the Big Bang. Not a lot of point in that. Everying would flowing outwards at the speed of light consumed in great balls of fire. Ok for Gerry Lee Lewis but not for the rest of the very unevolved human race.
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Teddy Eagle 29 May 23 9.05pm | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Not a lot of point in that. Everying would flowing outwards at the speed of light consumed in great balls of fire. Ok for Gerry Lee Lewis but not for the rest of the very unevolved human race. But where would he have got a piano from that soon after the creation of the universe?
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Stirlingsays 29 May 23 9.53pm | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
I agree that things are far from perfect and that single-culture ghettos need to be broken up in some way, but all is not lost. The UK is not a stone age backwater. So long as we ensure all children are taught the national curriculum, including our culture and history, they won't end up being indoctrinated. I would go further and make all schools secular with world religions taught as one subject. Having non-immigrant friends and watching UK TV changes attitudes. The boys start supporting British football1965 i teams and the girls start to resist being treated as possessions. You can see this happening already. It's not complete and there will be many setbacks on the way, but given time, patience and effort it will change. We need to encourage that change and welcome those who do with love and acceptance, rather than drive them back into the dark with endless criticism. Wisbech, 1965 is calling for you.....it wants its 'integration for immigrants' talking points back. Still selling sixty year old expired 'jam tomorrow' for others while he has the Cornish cream.
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 29 May 23 10.08pm | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
It's been lied about countless times with disingenuous language that tries to deceive like you have here. The vast amount of immigration into Singapore is Asian, it is not diverse. The suggestion that it is in anyway comparable to what is happening in Europe is a bare face lie. Similarly the amount of immigration into Japan is tiny and it is also vastly Asian. It is extremely hard as a foreigner to become a naturalised Japanese precisely because they know what that future brings. Immigration mainly comes as imported workers on visa. Once again you have been caught trying to manipulate the truth and give a false impression. The only one lying here is you. You pretend to be concerned about immigration, but the truth is what actually concerns you is where the immigrants come from. When we were in the EU you complained because free movement allowed Eastern Europeans access. Now we are out you complain they come from somewhere else. When it's pointed out that Singapore unsurprisingly has a large number of Asians you seem to think that's somehow different. When we had Eastern Europeans you weren't happy. Singapore actually has a significant number of European and American ex-pats in residence. It is though only a tiny economy compared to ours. Japan has more overseas workers than the official figures suggest. Many are there on limited contracts with pragmatic blind eyes being turned. The government know they face the same problem as we do and are quietly finding ways to overcome it. This gives a flavour of a very familiar problem, complicated for Japan by their language:- The Japanese government does know what must be done. It's just not what you think they know! Originally posted by Stirlingsays
That is no different to the justifications of a dictatorship. In reality, prospective governments are expected to tell their voters what the plan to do in manifestos. The whole point is to hold them to their promises. You do post some tripe on occasions! It's not the least like a dictatorship. Manifestos are a broad-brush wish list of hopes which often don't survive the first few days. They aren't, and cannot be, a list of cast iron commitments. Events, dear boy, events! And politics! For sure the electorate hold a government to account which is why jam tomorrow promises so often succeed, rather than a careful analysis of what has actually been possible. I want governments to lead where their convictions tell them they need us to go and not to follow the herd of popular opinion. Originally posted by Stirlingsays
You are a hypocrite and you have been called out on this by more than me. You are just another cake and eat it merchant. More tripe. That others might be as stupid as you over such an issue doesn't mean you are right and you most certainly aren't. It's a preposterous idea that to be able to have an opinion on something as big a subject as immigration you must live in the middle of some of the worst affected areas. I have never claimed to know what it's like to live in South London, or Bradford or Leicester in 2023. I haven't because I don't. Any more than you know what it's like to live in Cornwall. Unlike me, who does know what it was like to live in Wisbech 10 years ago. That's not and never has been anything to do with the general observations I make about immigration. They are not specific to any one area or anyone's personal experiences. Originally posted by Stirlingsays
And how just might that be? It ought to be blindingly obvious, but to a hypocrite like you surely are I guess you "do a Nelson". You constantly repeat your mantra about me not having the right to an opinion on immigration because I live in Cornwall. Whilst you offer daily opinions on this, and related subjects when you live in the Fens. As rural and isolated an area as anywhere in Eastern England. If that's not hypocritical they need to revise the dictionary.
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 29 May 23 10.17pm | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Wisbech, 1965 is calling for you.....it wants its 'integration for immigrants' talking points back. Still selling sixty year old expired 'jam tomorrow' for others while he has the Cornish cream.
If you cannot see the progress we have achieved since 1965 then you must be tuned into alternative TV channels and live somewhere very isolated. Wait a moment. You do both of those, don't you? I had a nice scone, jam and clotted cream tea this afternoon before a lovely evening walk in peaceful countryside overlooking the Fal, Walked through a tea plantation. Here in England. Didn't see anyone other than a couple of fellow dog walkers. You should try it. Helps focus the mind and think about all kinds of things. The Nene may not be so pretty and needs its high banks to stop it flooding you, but it will do.
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georgenorman 29 May 23 10.24pm | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
I agree that things are far from perfect and that single-culture ghettos need to be broken up in some way, but all is not lost. The UK is not a stone age backwater. So long as we ensure all children are taught the national curriculum, including our culture and history, they won't end up being indoctrinated. I would go further and make all schools secular with world religions taught as one subject. Having non-immigrant friends and watching UK TV changes attitudes. The boys start supporting British football teams and the girls start to resist being treated as possessions. You can see this happening already. It's not complete and there will be many setbacks on the way, but given time, patience and effort it will change. We need to encourage that change and welcome those who do with love and acceptance, rather than drive them back into the dark with endless criticism. Naïve wishful thinking. The exact opposite is happening. There are many organisations and pressure groups among the various so called ‘communities’ who campaign to retain and extend their culture, religion and politics. One example was my earlier post of the theatre wanting to ban white people from their audience, purely because they are white. Meanwhile, various ‘hate’ legislation and propaganda is churned out to try to prop up this house of cards.
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HKOwen Hong Kong 29 May 23 11.02pm | |
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Take no lessons on racism or migration from someone who pigeon holes people based on their appearance.
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HKOwen Hong Kong 29 May 23 11.57pm | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
I agree that things are far from perfect and that single-culture ghettos need to be broken up in some way, but all is not lost. The UK is not a stone age backwater. So long as we ensure all children are taught the national curriculum, including our culture and history, they won't end up being indoctrinated. I would go further and make all schools secular with world religions taught as one subject. Having non-immigrant friends and watching UK TV changes attitudes. The boys start supporting British football teams and the girls start to resist being treated as possessions. You can see this happening already. It's not complete and there will be many setbacks on the way, but given time, patience and effort it will change. We need to encourage that change and welcome those who do with love and acceptance, rather than drive them back into the dark with endless criticism. Pop down your local madrassa and tell them they are going to be a secular school and see what reaction you get. Simply an absurd post.
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Teddy Eagle 30 May 23 6.22am | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
If you cannot see the progress we have achieved since 1965 then you must be tuned into alternative TV channels and live somewhere very isolated. Wait a moment. You do both of those, don't you? I had a nice scone, jam and clotted cream tea this afternoon before a lovely evening walk in peaceful countryside overlooking the Fal, Walked through a tea plantation. Here in England. Didn't see anyone other than a couple of fellow dog walkers. You should try it. Helps focus the mind and think about all kinds of things. The Nene may not be so pretty and needs its high banks to stop it flooding you, but it will do. A cream tea and a walk in the countryside with a couple of dog walkers for company is a paean to the wonders of multi-culturalism and will surely resonate with all. Who among us hasn't taken a pleasant ramble through the bucolic glories of south London and thought the same?
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the silurian The garden of England.(not really) 30 May 23 7.29am | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
I agree that things are far from perfect and that single-culture ghettos need to be broken up in some way, but all is not lost. The UK is not a stone age backwater. So long as we ensure all children are taught the national curriculum, including our culture and history, they won't end up being indoctrinated. I would go further and make all schools secular with world religions taught as one subject. Having non-immigrant friends and watching UK TV changes attitudes. The boys start supporting British football teams and the girls start to resist being treated as possessions. We need to encourage that change and welcome those who do with love and acceptance, rather than drive them back into the dark with endless criticism. and often end up as the victims of so called 'honour killings'!!
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