People with money tend to want more. He's not doing it as a favour. I'd frankly say the job is a bit of a pain in the arse.

Where is there any evidence that this will work?

In my opinion, and I'm pretty sure in the majority of opinions, we needed a motivator. Is Roy a motivator - he doesn't seem it. I don't see how this is anything other than a step backwards. We're almost at the stage where we'd be better off in the Championship.

Fingers crossed, stay up, then buy what ten decent players in the summer. Yeah right, get real. It isn't a strategy, it's not even a tactic. It's not even ok for now.

Red and Blue Army!

Were there? Really? There may be a whole raft of unemployed Managers out there, but were they willing to come to us? Why even would they, until we know whether we are staying up or going down. Why take on this sh*t show, when they can wait til the end of the season and make a considered decision.

Unless you actually saw the queue in Sainsbury's car park over the weekend...

A stairway to Heaven and a Highway to Hell give some indication of expected traffic numbers

Wasn't the lack of running and fitness also a criticism of Palace under Roy? I seem to remember it was. Anyway, let's not get too carried away about the distance covered thing as Man City, Arsenal, United and Brighton are all in the bottom seven teams for distance covered. It's what you do with the running, not how much you run.

Roy's first game is April 1st. How very appropriate. Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me. But who's the fool?

Edited by southnorwoodhill (21 Mar 2023 11.55am)

While I would agree to some extent this is true, what do you expect from a first-time PL manager who at least to some extent is learning on the job? What I'm saying is either don't hire managers who are unqualified in the first place or if you do hire them for whatever reason then expect to go through some rough periods in which you have to stand by them while they learn. Hiring an inexperienced manager and then failing to back him to gain the required experience merely adds insult to injury.

I think Vieira got the job (after others had rejected it) because he was essentially the only candidate interviewed who wanted it, and pre-season was fast approaching at the time. Parish was getting desperate, and Vieira - a big name - gave him a solution.

This speaks to a greater problem; that Parish now has a reputation in the game as someone you don't want to work for. That hurts Palace. Whatever you think of Allardyce and Pulis, they were credible managers who have influence and networks in the small community of football. The fact that they couldn't work for Parish is bound to have been noticed by others. The treatment of Vieira last week, whether right or wrong, will also have resonated in the football world. He's a beloved and respected person and whether we were right to break ties with him or not, it won't go down well (it already hasn't) in the wider football world. Roy has got the job now as much, I suspect, because he's one of the very few who's prepared to work with Parish as anything else.

Our real problem may come in the summer, no matter which division we're in. I suspect very few credible managers are going to want the Palace job as long as Parish is there. Why would you want to work for a boss who the best of your peers have no respect for?

Sydenham by birth. Selhurst by the Grace of God.

Isn't it wonderful that "fans" now seek to deride an icon of Bobby Charlton's stature.