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silvertop Portishead 18 Jul 22 9.55am | |
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Originally posted by Nicholas91
That is so spot on it dazed me momentarily. It is difficult to envisage anyone less suited to leading this country. Keith Vaz? Peter Bone?
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 18 Jul 22 10.16am | |
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Originally posted by cryrst
So now your saying that by having the power to elect the new PM that they would do it in our best interests. I think this is wrong as it could be about who’s who’s and best ‘mates’. The members don’t have that relationship so nepotism cannot be a factor. We are talking about Parliament being sovereign. Who leads the Government is secondary to that. Parliament is charged with the duty of acting in our best interests. Being cynical about how individual members might exercise that responsibility doesn't change that. Any PM chosen in the circumstances I have described would necessarily have been an interim one, whose primary task would have been to oversee the holding of a confirmation vote. Should that have returned a reversal of the 2016 decision, as I expect and the Brexiteers feared, then our withdrawal would have been suspended, and the Parties would have fought a GE on a different basis. Knowing the situation, the EU would almost certainly have then offered conciliatory terms, which both parties, or large parts of both parties, would have endorsed. We may well have ended up with a coalition, who knows, but the interim PM would be PM no longer.
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cryrst The garden of England 18 Jul 22 10.35am | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
We are talking about Parliament being sovereign. Who leads the Government is secondary to that. Parliament is charged with the duty of acting in our best interests. Being cynical about how individual members might exercise that responsibility doesn't change that. Any PM chosen in the circumstances I have described would necessarily have been an interim one, whose primary task would have been to oversee the holding of a confirmation vote. Should that have returned a reversal of the 2016 decision, as I expect and the Brexiteers feared, then our withdrawal would have been suspended, and the Parties would have fought a GE on a different basis. Knowing the situation, the EU would almost certainly have then offered conciliatory terms, which both parties, or large parts of both parties, would have endorsed. We may well have ended up with a coalition, who knows, but the interim PM would be PM no longer. Wrong thread but the EU don’t not appear to want to offer conciliatory terms even now!
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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 18 Jul 22 11.15am | |
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I think the leadership should be treated as a game of shag, marry, avoid.
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steeleye20 Croydon 18 Jul 22 11.43am | |
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'Tory leadership TV debate shelved amid infighting concerns'. And me.
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Mapletree Croydon 18 Jul 22 12.15pm | |
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Originally posted by silvertop
I don't agree with Cryst on much out side football, but his point seemed common sense. He wasn't doffing cap to the toffs. I think he was saying that those who come from senior management will have had a better understanding of nation management. I am self employed and experience stress in my job, but I know I could not cope with the relentless 24/7 of front bench politics. Tony Blaire aged about 40 years on the job. Senior Management eh? So how many PLC CEO jobs lie with old Etonians? I believe those days are rapidly going mate, now that City people no longer have to wear their old school tie every Friday (yes, that was a thing). I just looked up the top 3, 2 of which are run by people from overseas. The third is run by someone who went to Birmingham Polytechnic. Some people on here really do live in the past.
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cryrst The garden of England 18 Jul 22 12.22pm | |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
Senior Management eh? So how many PLC CEO jobs lie with old Etonians? I believe those days are rapidly going mate, now that City people no longer have to wear their old school tie every Friday (yes, that was a thing). I just looked up the top 3, 2 of which are run by people from overseas. The third is run by someone who went to Birmingham Polytechnic. Some people on here really do live in the past. Maybe the future looks a bit too bleak !
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croydon proud Any european country i fancy! 18 Jul 22 8.17pm | |
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Originally posted by Nicholas91
That is so spot on it dazed me momentarily. I thank you!
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 18 Jul 22 10.01pm | |
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Originally posted by cryrst
Wrong thread but the EU don’t not appear to want to offer conciliatory terms even now! Are you surprised? Whilst we had a two faced PM determined to "get Brexit done" with an "oven ready deal", what was there for them to be conciliatory about? Deals have to work for both sides.
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YT Oxford 18 Jul 22 10.49pm | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
We are talking about Parliament being sovereign. Who leads the Government is secondary to that. Parliament is charged with the duty of acting in our best interests. Being cynical about how individual members might exercise that responsibility doesn't change that. Any PM chosen in the circumstances I have described would necessarily have been an interim one, whose primary task would have been to oversee the holding of a confirmation vote. Should that have returned a reversal of the 2016 decision, as I expect and the Brexiteers feared, then our withdrawal would have been suspended, and the Parties would have fought a GE on a different basis. Knowing the situation, the EU would almost certainly have then offered conciliatory terms, which both parties, or large parts of both parties, would have endorsed. We may well have ended up with a coalition, who knows, but the interim PM would be PM no longer. Charged by whom?
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PalazioVecchio south pole 18 Jul 22 11.01pm | |
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Originally posted by YT
Charged by whom? originally ? it was a Cavalry Charge....Oliver Cromwell.
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Cucking Funt Clapham on the Back 18 Jul 22 11.18pm | |
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Originally posted by ASCPFC
I think the leadership should be treated as a game of shag, marry, avoid. Would. I think
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