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cryrst Flag The garden of England 17 Jun 23 5.20am Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Rain is threatened Sunday afternoon. Maybe stokes actually wants to provide entertainment and wants a result. Got to admire him for that. Lots of people have spent lots of money and deserve some excitement which this surely will provide.

 

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Teddy Eagle Flag 17 Jun 23 5.43am Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

The Aussies were surprisingly defensive in their field placings which England exploited to an extent.
The BBC says
England took 54 singles in the first session, the most ever recorded in the history of Test cricket. Australia didn't manage a maiden until the 37th over of the day and bowled only one more.

 

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YT Flag Oxford 17 Jun 23 7.51am Send a Private Message to YT Add YT as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

Rain is threatened Sunday afternoon. Maybe stokes actually wants to provide entertainment and wants a result. Got to admire him for that. Lots of people have spent lots of money and deserve some excitement which this surely will provide.

Or maybe stokes just had a rush of blood to the head rather than a modicum of common sense. Who knows, eh?

 


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YT Flag Oxford 17 Jun 23 8.06am Send a Private Message to YT Add YT as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

The Aussies were surprisingly defensive in their field placings which England exploited to an extent.
The BBC says
England took 54 singles in the first session, the most ever recorded in the history of Test cricket. Australia didn't manage a maiden until the 37th over of the day and bowled only one more.

Why "surprisingly"? They knew England's strategy is to go for quick runs via lots of boundaries and they knew it was good batting conditions. The obvious tactic, therefore, is to frustrate the batting side by only allowing them to score slowly.

As I've already posted, IMHO the most surprising decision of the day was - to a certain extent - for England to play into Australia's hand by not maximising the first innings score. It's not as if we've got a fear-inducing bowling attack. But as with all test match declarations, if you win, it was inspired; if you lose, it was foolish.

 


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Teddy Eagle Flag 17 Jun 23 8.17am Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by YT

Why "surprisingly"? They knew England's strategy is to go for quick runs via lots of boundaries and they knew it was good batting conditions. The obvious tactic, therefore, is to frustrate the batting side by only allowing them to score slowly.

As I've already posted, IMHO the most surprising decision of the day was - to a certain extent - for England to play into Australia's hand by not maximising the first innings score. It's not as if we've got a fear-inducing bowling attack. But as with all test match declarations, if you win, it was inspired; if you lose, it was foolish.

Because it was quite un-Australian.

 

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YT Flag Oxford 17 Jun 23 8.26am Send a Private Message to YT Add YT as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

Because it was quite un-Australian.

It's very Australian to try to piss England off.

 


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Teddy Eagle Flag 17 Jun 23 8.41am Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by YT

It's very Australian to try to piss England off.

It certainly is. Usually, though, they try, and too often succeed, through aggression. Of course that might come out in their batting.

 

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Midlands Eagle Flag 17 Jun 23 9.37am Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by YT

It's not as if we've got a fear-inducing bowling attack.

Our three seamers are pretty good especially if the sky is overcast as it is forecast to be and the Aussies should be wary of Moeen Ali too.

You may recall in 2005 one well known Aussie commentator said that any Australian batsman that got out to Ashley Giles should go and hang themselves yet he managed to get them all out

 

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steeleye20 Flag Croydon 17 Jun 23 10.00am Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

We left some runs out there, lost some wickets through ungainly swipes and dashes, yet bazball has somehow given us nearly 400 on day one.

But it's thanks to Root's class, time and again he holds the whole thing together.

And he has embraced the new method, playing shots unheard of just a few years ago.

I'm dreaming of an Australian collapse, but I think it's a case of 'dream on'.

 

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beak Flag croydon 17 Jun 23 10.15am Send a Private Message to beak Add beak as a friend

When the shock declaration came I instantly thought of the Hansie Cronje declaration,all rather odd.

 

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ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 17 Jun 23 12.44pm Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

I didn't think the declaration was a shock - plus England would have got out sometime in the morning for maybe 20 more runs if that. Leaving Australia a day to go for it. Putting them in in the evening obviously means they need to open twice - which isn't easy - and has likely accounted for Warner. Get Smith and we're laughing.

 


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Eaglehamster Flag Storrington 17 Jun 23 12.52pm Send a Private Message to Eaglehamster Add Eaglehamster as a friend

I'm thinking that Stokes was informed that the weather was likely to be overcast for the morning. Gives his seamers a better chance.

Had sunshine been forecast I bet England would have batted on.

 


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