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Mapletree Croydon 17 Apr 22 12.34am | |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
Is the main objection that she’s rich or that she’s married to a Tory? It is that she lives in the UK, which is clearly her main residence, but pays no tax here to the benefit of her, her husband and her children. It is that the rules should be tightened but her husband is responsible for the rules and is therefore disincentivised. It is that her husband just put up NIC for all EXCEPT for non-employment related income and so is uniquely almost unaffected by his decision. It is that the Chancellor should pay the same taxes as everyone else.
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Teddy Eagle 17 Apr 22 12.39am | |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
It is that she lives in the UK, which is clearly her main residence, but pays no tax here to the benefit of her, her husband and her children. It is that the rules should be tightened but her husband is responsible for the rules and is therefore disincentivised. It is that her husband just put up NIC for all EXCEPT for non-employment related income and so is uniquely almost unaffected by his decision. It is that the Chancellor should pay the same taxes as everyone else. Yes, right, but none of those were options. Rich or Married to a Tory?
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HKOwen Hong Kong 17 Apr 22 12.39am | |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
It is that she lives in the UK, which is clearly her main residence, but pays no tax here to the benefit of her, her husband and her children. It is that the rules should be tightened but her husband is responsible for the rules and is therefore disincentivised. It is that her husband just put up NIC for all EXCEPT for non-employment related income and so is uniquely almost unaffected by his decision. It is that the Chancellor should pay the same taxes as everyone else. FFS, try and keep up. She paid tax here on her UK income and paid a fee for doing so. That is the prevailing rule. To state she pays no tax here is not correct. That your post has basic error is no surprise. Edited by HKOwen (17 Apr 2022 12.40am)
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Tim Gypsy Hill '64 Stoke sub normal 17 Apr 22 1.10am | |
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Originally posted by BlueJay
Vast numbers of people in fact. I quoted your posts. You can always reference back to that or your actual posts if you have no memory of what you said (which seems to be a recurrent theme). I'm not opening this thread anymore. This pointless back and forth isn't adding anything, so I'll opt out. Edited by BlueJay (16 Apr 2022 10.54am) "Vast numbers"? Really? Or just the SJW idiots. You did indeed quote my posts, but for some reason felt the need to inform me of what you think they mean, instead of what I typed (which is a recurrent theme!). And now, unsurprisingly, you flounce off again.
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Tim Gypsy Hill '64 Stoke sub normal 17 Apr 22 1.19am | |
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Originally posted by HKOwen
It's clearly annoying you that your posts are systematically picked apart by toddlers and idiots It wouldn't be annoying even if someone did pick my posts apart, but as you're obviously talking about BlueJay, he picks nothing apart, he merely twists the words of others to suit his assault of opposing ideas. Even to the point of telling people how they really think. But if you are just posting a 'Rah rah rah' rallying cry for BJ, then you are probably one of those seeking to pick my posts apart.
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Tim Gypsy Hill '64 Stoke sub normal 17 Apr 22 1.29am | |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
He says if you’re unhappy about something then change it. But he also calls people outraged idiots if they go and protest. Further he conveniently ignores the fact it’s been a two party political system for a century. Making it easy for the government and the establishment by seeing it this way clearly doesn’t help. That is a false statement. Show where I have said this. Or at least show some integrity and retract it. What the fact a two party system has to do with repealing laws has got to do with anything, I'm unsure. Poll Tax got repealed within a century. But not by posting on social media, thats what outraged idiots do. If you want change, go and protest.
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Tim Gypsy Hill '64 Stoke sub normal 17 Apr 22 1.56am | |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
Can you please explain this She doesn't pay income tax or NIC in the UK. The money she spends is Sunak's so e.g. VAT is coming from his funds not hers. She has committed to voluntarily pay income tax in two years time, let's see whether that does happen. So much wrong with this. She doesn't pay income tax as her income is made in another country. She has non dom status. Which is allowed. Admittedly, she pays no NIC. But I very seriously doubt that she will be using the NHS, or trying to draw a state pension. VAT is paid by all consumers in this country. It's really quite irrelevant where the money comes from, as long as the VAT is paid. Rishi's not claiming VAT rebates for his wife. More people spending money, more VAT in the HMRC coffers. But for some reason, you think only her husband pays it, even though they are a couple, and have kids, and shop in this country. There will be a time when she will have to pay all her taxes in this country if she stays here, which I believe is 2028, and she will be required to become a British citizen. So if she opts to give up her Indian domicle earlier and pay UK taxes, she would have to give up her right to vote, and sell her assets and property, in India. Which is something not many people would be willing to do.
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Tim Gypsy Hill '64 Stoke sub normal 17 Apr 22 2.02am | |
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Originally posted by cryrst
But he's correct that she paid more tax in the UK than any of us though. I think they're just angry because she is wealthy. Whatever she pays wouldn't be enough. It the politics of envy.
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cryrst The garden of England 17 Apr 22 6.08am | |
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Originally posted by Tim Gypsy Hill '64
I think they're just angry because she is wealthy. Whatever she pays wouldn't be enough. It the politics of envy. I'm thinking the same. My original post had an error and should have said 'many of us", not any of us before that gets spotted by a n other. I'm glad maple is comfortable enough to pay over 30k in tax himself. Whether he could pay more and doesn't because the rules allow him not to is a question in itself. Its surprising the receipts an accountant can use against what you should pay.
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orpingtoneagle Orpington 17 Apr 22 8.28am | |
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This is a difficult issue. Tax is a legal obligation but also seen as a moral issue. I have little doubt that she has paid the right amount of tax according to the law but as the law in the UK is such that you don't pay for ax on worldwide income as you do in other countries she has not paid tax at a level she would say in the level she would in some other places. It's a oddity in the UK system which can be argued to attract money into the UK. But tax is taxing. I do see an irony in the £millions the UK government pays Infosys that swell the Murray coffers and that the Chancellor indirectly benefits from
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Mapletree Croydon 17 Apr 22 8.39am | |
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Originally posted by Tim Gypsy Hill '64
So much wrong with this. She doesn't pay income tax as her income is made in another country. She has non dom status. Which is allowed. Admittedly, she pays no NIC. But I very seriously doubt that she will be using the NHS, or trying to draw a state pension. VAT is paid by all consumers in this country. It's really quite irrelevant where the money comes from, as long as the VAT is paid. Rishi's not claiming VAT rebates for his wife. More people spending money, more VAT in the HMRC coffers. But for some reason, you think only her husband pays it, even though they are a couple, and have kids, and shop in this country. There will be a time when she will have to pay all her taxes in this country if she stays here, which I believe is 2028, and she will be required to become a British citizen. So if she opts to give up her Indian domicle earlier and pay UK taxes, she would have to give up her right to vote, and sell her assets and property, in India. Which is something not many people would be willing to do. Are you saying an NRI can’t hold property or assets in India?
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Mapletree Croydon 17 Apr 22 8.40am | |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
Yes, right, but none of those were options. Rich or Married to a Tory? Clearly neither
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