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Hrolf The Ganger 27 Mar 22 12.01pm | |
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Originally posted by BlueJay
He was making a distinction between something being an agreement between whoever (family, community) and law. That would seem to be relevant. That you tag on a 'senility' comment (again) just because the poster is old, is a little petty. I would imagine that many of those you have cared about in life have been aged, and indeed you will be in that position one day yourself. For one he clearly isn't displaying such symptoms (it's just a childish 'angle', like your race obsession sh!te), and secondly even if he was deteriorating due to age, is that really some kind of infinite well of hilarity for you? Edited by BlueJay (27 Mar 2022 3.26am) Who do you think you are? I couldn't care less what you think. Stick to the topic.
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Hrolf The Ganger 27 Mar 22 12.03pm | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
It's a reasonable criticism. Hrolf and me do differ on certain subjects but we agree on many others. That's true for most of us and I respect diversity of thought in my opponents so why wouldn't I for my allies. I sometimes think that a less politically tribal approach would be better for everyone but it's not really how humans work. And fighting human nature is rarely winnable. If you're going to point out differences with your friends then text is rarely the best medium as it only has adversarial cues and a lack of modifiers. Besides you are kind of criticising me for something you rarely do yourself. Edited by Stirlingsays (27 Mar 2022 11.59am) No we don't.
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Stirlingsays 27 Mar 22 12.04pm | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
No we don't.
'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen) |
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PalazioVecchio south pole 27 Mar 22 12.05pm | |
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Faux Outrage, righteous indignation, feeling hurt & upset, being triggered, offended.
Wars won, Patents copyrighted, money sensibly invested, Wealth created through hard work, Private Property, low crime etc etc There is a reason that the greatest sh1tholes on the Planet are poor. Start by looking at the culture. Edited by PalazioVecchio (27 Mar 2022 12.13pm)
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BlueJay UK 27 Mar 22 12.20pm | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
It's a reasonable criticism. Hrolf and me do differ on certain subjects but we agree on many others. That's true for most of us and I respect diversity of thought in my opponents so why wouldn't I for my allies. If you're going to point out differences with your friends text is rarely the best medium as it only has adversarial cues and a lack of modifiers. Besides you are kind of criticising me for something you rarely do yourself. I would say that most 'real world' groups have a variety of views. There is within that an embedded acknowledgement that extremes of thought will be naturally filed down due to a mutual understanding between people, their lives and experiences. Where people fall out of said dynamics they are more likely to lean into online (or sometimes offline) echo chambers that are much less about inconvenient complexities of real people and interactions and more 'create your own world' affairs. This 2D nature can easily lead to people falling into them and not quite realising how far they have gone. All well and good until the laptop lid comes down and the curated 2D construction starts to impact and attack the dignity and decency of those who are actually are there and do care. Edited by BlueJay (27 Mar 2022 12.28pm)
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BlueJay UK 27 Mar 22 12.22pm | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Who do you think you are? I couldn't care less what you think. Stick to the topic. I was commenting on something you yourself said, so if you want people to stick to the topic, try doing so yourself rather than hurling around insults.
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BlueJay UK 27 Mar 22 12.23pm | |
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Originally posted by PalazioVecchio
Faux Outrage, righteous indignation, feeling hurt & upset, being triggered, offended.
Wars won, Patents copyrighted, money sensibly invested, Wealth created through hard work, Private Property, low crime etc etc There is a reason that the greatest sh1tholes on the Planet are poor. Start by looking at the culture. Edited by PalazioVecchio (27 Mar 2022 12.13pm) I enjoyed this rap.
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Hrolf The Ganger 27 Mar 22 12.32pm | |
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Originally posted by BlueJay
I was commenting on something you yourself said, so if you want people to stick to the topic, try doing so yourself rather than hurling around insults. Look BlueJay. Wisbech is a big boy. He doesn't need your pathetic whining defence. Don't waste your time trying to lecture me. It does nothing other than disrupt a thread, which you have a habit of doing.
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Stirlingsays 27 Mar 22 12.33pm | |
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Originally posted by BlueJay
I would say that most 'real world' groups have a variety of views. There is within that an embedded acknowledgement that extremes of thought will be naturally filed down due to a mutual understanding between people, their lives and experiences. Where people fall out of said dynamics they are more likely to lean into online echo chambers that are much less about inconvenient complexities of real people and interactions and more 'create your own world' affairs. This 2D nature can easily lead to people falling into them and not quite realising how far they have gone. All well and good until the laptop lid comes down and the curated 2D construction starts to impact and attack the dignity and decency of those who are actually are there and do care. We differ on some social issues on what's more damaging to society. In some we have opposite views and others more an emphasis. I hear your subtext but while I recognise some of the issues you raise I don't quite invest into the stereotypes as much as you do. For me, there are bigger issues. Echo chambers do have negatives, we would agree. However, there will be disagreement even within the tightest debating community.....As long as there is debate, there will be disagreement and schools of thought. It's the closing down of debate, which is to be avoided.
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PalazioVecchio south pole 27 Mar 22 12.46pm | |
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BLM & Slavery atonement activists. When they drive their nice car through Tulse Hill, past some dishevelled Ukranian refugees will they be mumbling ''there's some more of those white devils'' ? Edited by PalazioVecchio (27 Mar 2022 12.47pm)
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 27 Mar 22 12.50pm | |
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Originally posted by Slimey Toad
This cannot be achieved whilst a historic belief system is deeply tied to the ethnicity of a sizeable group of citizens. A lot of my local friends are self-professed atheists (I consider myself fortunate to live in probably the most secular 'muslim' state in the World) but still call themselves muslims. Fine, but I am discussing what happens in the UK.
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Mapletree Croydon 27 Mar 22 12.54pm | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
It's a reasonable criticism. Hrolf and me do differ on certain subjects but we agree on many others. That's true for most of us and I respect diversity of thought in my opponents so why wouldn't I for my allies. I sometimes think that a less politically tribal approach would be better for everyone but it's not really how humans work. And fighting human nature is rarely winnable. If you're going to point out differences with your friends then text is rarely the best medium as it only has adversarial cues and a lack of modifiers. Besides you are kind of criticising me for something you rarely do yourself. Edited by Stirlingsays (27 Mar 2022 11.59am) I have apologised to you a couple of times in the past. It's about time you broadened your view of the world. How about coming to the Leeds or Watford game? I'll sort you out a ticket and buy you a beer. You can have a wander around Croydon whilst you are here, it's perfectly pleasant and we aren't removing all the names from the East India Company. In fact we have a protected area for that history. And I can show you where Hrolf grew up
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