Albanians run east London from barking I know that cos its on my door step the boys in Liverpool and Salford are heavy Albanians wouldnt dare try their hand there they only really control areas where postcode gangs are probably because they aint as organised and to busy fighting each other.

Ha, good point spider- although to be fair every area has it"s nice areas on the outskirts, Aintree would be an example round that way- but get your point!

They basically run london and Birmingham Glasgow I highly doubt Manchester is 50 50 Salford and that are still run by british mobs. Liverpool is scouse strictly guns and drugs straight from Ireland. All the best stuff comes into ireland via the states. Into liverpool and down the country so really scouse gangs are probably the most powerful of all.

Edited by Cpfc1861 (27 Sep 2020 10.35pm)

Interesting stuff - suprised me they got in to Glasgow!

'Organised' crime only works if it can remain organised and the reality is that it only remains that way if people are linked through family and cultural ties.

The Mafia in the US is largely a spent force because of people turning super-grasses. In many ways you can see the forces that shaped the Italain Mafia in the early 20th century present in Albania. Throw in the fact that when Communism fell in Albanaia and they emptied out the jails, telling the inmates to get out of the country, it is no wonder they now dominate many of the more serious criminal activities. Which lets be honest honest here is primarily drugs.

My understanding is that the reputation for violence is rather over-blown, although they are more than capable, and that if you actually want to make money, rather than strutt around being an arsehole, the Albanains are rather good business partners. Reliable, not leaky and tend to do what they say they will. And they are truly international. All over Europe and with good reputations in South America for actually being serious players who don't leave much to chance.

But the Albanains will fade away over the coming decades as their kids, born and raised in the affulent West, f*** up like the US Mafia did and they will go down the route that all organised crime ultimately goes down of imploding.

If a major league criminal has any brains then they push their kids into top private schools and get them to go into high level finance. Where the serious money is made, often illegally, and with almost no risks what so ever.

Its how the UK operates and many a 'Brit' now sitting in various board rooms and other such places has a dodgy grandparent who cut a few throats. s***, that is how our Royal Family came to prominence.

"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

Nice thing to write Kenny, and you were his friend, he would appreciate it.