She seems a pretty amazing woman.

Good point about single men. Look at Germany and the cheap labour social experiment with incredible numbers of single muslim men pouring in, with no clue about the country they were arriving in. Single men have fewer ties and considerations. Less to anchor them, less to lose. With no family unit to protect or consider it perversely gifts the unwell and unhinged more power. We saw that in Nice and with NZ too.

So, a sane immigration policy, basically letting people we need to fill jobs in very limited numbers, combined with better intelligence and education with an emphasis on shared experience and integration where possible. You're right about how warped the ideologies you mention can become once they have their grip. What once may have been whispers in corners, are now chat apps and what amount to online self radicalisation kits for the weak minded. Once anyone is in an ideological bubble of any description it's eventually trouble for wider society and their place in it.

Edited by dollardays (19 Mar 2019 1.43am)

Essentially the whole thing is depressing. All you are being offered for a future is a sh1tsandwich whichever way you look at it.

The people of the past who pushed back against mass immigration and multiculturalism were demonised and had their careers destroyed and this continues to this day. The people who destroyed and destroy those careers are celebrated and presented in the media as positive. Feel good well meaning actions are presented as note worthy.

Yet what about brass tacks? The real stuff. In the European and other highly developed countries that didn't have mass immigration there is a distinct lack of body bags from terrorism.

If you step back and look with dispassion at how we got here.....You see it's because we have a general consensus within a powerful elite within society who economically think in the short term, and long term have no care about national identity and think that human nature is some controllable malleable substance that can be shaped into their image of the world.

A distinct lack of wisdom took us here and I'm sorry to be downbeat about it.....all we have are people selling you cookies while your house is on fire....and it was their ideological descendants who lit it.

Violence is not the answer, balkanize and work damn hard to give your family the most options possible moving forward. Because our leaders certainly aren't giving you that.

Edited by Stirlingsays (19 Mar 2019 8.19am)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

What about if I said black people are disproportionately better at athletics than other races?

Shock horror! Genes have nothing to do with it Danny, you know that.

Everything is about culture and how hard they train.....lets ignore statistics because those nasty racists just want to use it to 'hate' people.

Nature has to take account of modern sensitivities Danny. We can ignore all the statistics....We are all EQUAL.

Link hands everybody!

'We are the world'
'We are the children'
'We are the ones who make a brighter day so let's start giving'

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

We are living in a weird 'post' free speech era.

If people are celebrating these attacks they are being horrible no doubt about it. However, arresting people?

When our troops came back from Iraq and marched in their town, we had Islamic extremists standing in a mob abusing them in the street......The Police stood and did nothing.

Edited by Stirlingsays (19 Mar 2019 12.44pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)