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cryrst The garden of England 05 Feb 19 6.05am
Originally posted by dollardays The museum of East Asian art museum has an Asians in the UK display. It didn't occur to me for one second to wonder there the black or the indian or the little green men areas were. Why would it? Much in the same way I didn't feel that way when I went to the Anglo Saxon open air museum. Being up in arms about the very idea of a black british culture museum is sad more than anything. Im not up in arms. This is about a BRITISH museum. Black is not the only non white on these islands.
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The garden of England 05 Feb 19 6.05am

Originally posted by dollardays

The museum of East Asian art museum has an Asians in the UK display. It didn't occur to me for one second to wonder there the black or the indian or the little green men areas were. Why would it? Much in the same way I didn't feel that way when I went to the Anglo Saxon open air museum. Being up in arms about the very idea of a black british culture museum is sad more than anything.

Im not up in arms.
This is about a BRITISH museum.
Black is not the only non white on these islands.

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Midlands Eagle 05 Feb 19 7.32am
Originally posted by steve1984 Well said. Poor love got roughed up by some black people when he lived in the smoke and the resentment oozes from every putrid pore. Please read the sticky at the top of this forum as we don't want personal attacks and sarcasm here [Link]
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05 Feb 19 7.32am

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Originally posted by steve1984

Well said. Poor love got roughed up by some black people when he lived in the smoke and the resentment oozes from every putrid pore.

Please read the sticky at the top of this forum as we don't want personal attacks and sarcasm here

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Barely Eagle London 05 Feb 19 7.48am
Originally posted by Stirlingsays Isn't that about the holocaust event rather than the Jews as a specific race and history? The official name is 'The Memorial to the Murdered Jews of Europe'. That is pretty specific.
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London 05 Feb 19 7.48am

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Isn't that about the holocaust event rather than the Jews as a specific race and history?

The official name is 'The Memorial to the Murdered Jews of Europe'.

That is pretty specific.

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EverybodyDannsNow SE19 05 Feb 19 7.48am
Originally posted by Stirlingsays Isn't that about the holocaust event rather than the Jews as a specific race and history? No, it’s called ‘Memorial to the Murdered Jews of Europe’...
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Isn't that about the holocaust event rather than the Jews as a specific race and history?

No, it’s called ‘Memorial to the Murdered Jews of Europe’...

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Cucking Funt Clapham on the Back 05 Feb 19 8.50am
Originally posted by Pussay Patrol Can't wait for the mobo awards Why? Have you been nominated? Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham
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Clapham on the Back 05 Feb 19 8.50am

Originally posted by Pussay Patrol

Can't wait for the mobo awards

Why? Have you been nominated?

Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham

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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 05 Feb 19 10.28am
Originally posted by madcap_v2 Could have... You're now questioning whether a hypothetical exhibition created in your own mind, promotes diversity, amazing. I'm questioning the point of any museum that only wants exhibits from one racial element of society. No one has answered any point about how that promotes diversity, inter-culturalism or any of those type of ideals. This could be interpreted as saying 'loads of black culture is not important enough for national museums, let's build a token one to put stuff from black culture in'. As I said - ghettoised culture. Red and Blue Army!
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Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 05 Feb 19 10.28am

Originally posted by madcap_v2

Could have...

You're now questioning whether a hypothetical exhibition created in your own mind, promotes diversity, amazing.

I'm questioning the point of any museum that only wants exhibits from one racial element of society. No one has answered any point about how that promotes diversity, inter-culturalism or any of those type of ideals.
This could be interpreted as saying 'loads of black culture is not important enough for national museums, let's build a token one to put stuff from black culture in'. As I said - ghettoised culture.

Red and Blue Army!

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steve1984 05 Feb 19 11.02am
Originally posted by dollardays Nobody deserves a bad childhood, that's sad more than anything. But it's up to the individual how they let that colour their view of others. my thoughts entirely.
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steve1984 05 Feb 19 11.02am

Originally posted by dollardays

Nobody deserves a bad childhood, that's sad more than anything. But it's up to the individual how they let that colour their view of others.

my thoughts entirely.

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steve1984 05 Feb 19 11.04am
Originally posted by PalazioVecchio the idea that you can summarize a black culture : of 1.4 billion people, across 50 countries , speaking hundreds of different languages, following many different faiths ...is ludicrous. Indeed. That's why the idea is a museum of Black British culture. Do try to keep up.
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steve1984 05 Feb 19 11.04am

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

the idea that you can summarize a black culture :

of 1.4 billion people,
across 50 countries ,
speaking hundreds of different languages,
following many different faiths

...is ludicrous.

Indeed. That's why the idea is a museum of Black British culture. Do try to keep up.

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Stirlingsays 05 Feb 19 11.38am
Originally posted by Barely Eagle The official name is 'The Memorial to the Murdered Jews of Europe'. That is pretty specific. But not about the Jews as a race or culture but instead about the Holocaust event. It's not the same thing as a museum for 'Jewish culture'.....and besides a religion isn't a race or skin colour anyway. As I and others have said, if you are alright with creating museums called 'white culture' or 'asian culture' then....while I don't agree it's a good thing....it's even handed and not hypocritical. Yet I'm of the mind that a lot on the left who are arguing that a museum of 'black culture' would be a positive would then argue that a museum of 'white culture' would be racist. Edited by Stirlingsays (05 Feb 2019 11.47am) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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05 Feb 19 11.38am

Originally posted by Barely Eagle

The official name is 'The Memorial to the Murdered Jews of Europe'.

That is pretty specific.

But not about the Jews as a race or culture but instead about the Holocaust event.

It's not the same thing as a museum for 'Jewish culture'.....and besides a religion isn't a race or skin colour anyway.

As I and others have said, if you are alright with creating museums called 'white culture' or 'asian culture' then....while I don't agree it's a good thing....it's even handed and not hypocritical.

Yet I'm of the mind that a lot on the left who are arguing that a museum of 'black culture' would be a positive would then argue that a museum of 'white culture' would be racist.

Edited by Stirlingsays (05 Feb 2019 11.47am)

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Hrolf The Ganger 05 Feb 19 11.42am
Originally posted by madcap_v2 I learnt nothing about it in school, only first hand accounts from family members who were on the ship itself. That's a fair point but history was only taught up to a certain period. For example, I was never taught about WW2 because it was too recent. Being totally honest, I feel that the profile of Black people in this country is much greater than their actual numbers. Therefore, I am confident that Black history will be widely available for future generations. I understand that Black history is important to those who feel separated from their cultural roots but the past is the past. I like many people have been interested in my ancestry but I will not fall into the trap that some seem to do by feeling responsible or somehow limited by the lives of my ancestors. Other than sharing some genes, their lives and mine are totally separate. They had their day, with it's good and bad and although you can certainly learn from the past, we are not bound by it.
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Originally posted by madcap_v2

I learnt nothing about it in school, only first hand accounts from family members who were on the ship itself.

That's a fair point but history was only taught up to a certain period.
For example, I was never taught about WW2 because it was too recent.
Being totally honest, I feel that the profile of Black people in this country is much greater than their actual numbers. Therefore, I am confident that Black history will be widely available for future generations.
I understand that Black history is important to those who feel separated from their cultural roots but the past is the past.
I like many people have been interested in my ancestry but I will not fall into the trap that some seem to do by feeling responsible or somehow limited by the lives of my ancestors. Other than sharing some genes, their lives and mine are totally separate. They had their day, with it's good and bad and although you can certainly learn from the past, we are not bound by it.

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Pussay Patrol 05 Feb 19 11.46am
Originally posted by Cucking Funt Why? Have you been nominated? No. For the inevitable thread and usual outrage. I suppose I could start the thread myself, along the lines of why there isn't a white music awards ceremony. If I get a 5 page response can I call that success? I think there's enough gullibility and bandwagon jumpers to fill the quota Paua oouaarancì Irà chiyeah Ishé galé ma ba oo ah
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Pussay Patrol

05 Feb 19 11.46am

Originally posted by Cucking Funt

Why? Have you been nominated?

No. For the inevitable thread and usual outrage. I suppose I could start the thread myself, along the lines of why there isn't a white music awards ceremony. If I get a 5 page response can I call that success? I think there's enough gullibility and bandwagon jumpers to fill the quota

Paua oouaarancì Irà chiyeah Ishé galé ma ba oo ah

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Hrolf The Ganger 05 Feb 19 11.58am
Originally posted by steve1984 Yes. So's the Viking museum, a f***ing disgrace, glorifying a bunch of Godless Norwegians coming over here, raping our women folk & wearing silly hats. Sodding liberals. Which part of history is not defined by skin colour don't you understand? European history is dominated by white people because... wait for it....almost everyone is white. Call it what you want but don't call it 'Black'. This should not be difficult, even for you. By the way, I am related to those godless Norwegians so I resent you racist humour.
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Hrolf The Ganger

05 Feb 19 11.58am

Originally posted by steve1984

Yes.

So's the Viking museum, a f***ing disgrace, glorifying a bunch of Godless Norwegians coming over here, raping our women folk & wearing silly hats. Sodding liberals.

Which part of history is not defined by skin colour don't you understand?
European history is dominated by white people because... wait for it....almost everyone is white.

Call it what you want but don't call it 'Black'.

This should not be difficult, even for you.

By the way, I am related to those godless Norwegians so I resent you racist humour.

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