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silvertop Flag Portishead 26 Jun 18 9.39am Send a Private Message to silvertop Add silvertop as a friend

Originally posted by dp

Not sure about this. The specific point that I was reacting to was the notion that he would not sign a 1 year deal. I always thought that a long term deal is good business for clubs because it protects their ownership in the asset (I.e. the player), and for other amortisation reasons. However there is no fee for Wilshere, so there is no amortisation consideration. So what are West Ham gaining by offering a 1 year deal?

I get the point about Wilshere’s fitness, but there is nothing over the last couple of seasons to suggest he is really that injury prone, he played 29 league games two seasons ago, and 38 games overall last season. So Wilshere could theoretically take the money from West Ham, have a stormer, and then move on after a year. Effectively it is a season long loan where Wilshere gets paid rather than Arsenal.

All seems very odd.


Ha, I didn't know that. Nice to see facts presented that cause the majority of poster's objections run hard into the buffers.

In fact, that many turn outs in a team that rotates you whether you are fit or not is pretty good going.

 

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Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 26 Jun 18 10.50am Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by dp

Not sure about this. The specific point that I was reacting to was the notion that he would not sign a 1 year deal. I always thought that a long term deal is good business for clubs because it protects their ownership in the asset (I.e. the player), and for other amortisation reasons. However there is no fee for Wilshere, so there is no amortisation consideration. So what are West Ham gaining by offering a 1 year deal?

I get the point about Wilshere’s fitness, but there is nothing over the last couple of seasons to suggest he is really that injury prone, he played 29 league games two seasons ago, and 38 games overall last season. So Wilshere could theoretically take the money from West Ham, have a stormer, and then move on after a year. Effectively it is a season long loan where Wilshere gets paid rather than Arsenal.

All seems very odd.

Do you think West Ham’s signing on fee offer is 3 years worth of wages above what ours is because if it isn’t you’d have to be bat sh1t crazy to take it and bat sh1t crazy to offer it. Never going to happen, which is why it doesn’t happen with good players in their 20’s.

West Ham have probably tried it on and Wilshire is having none of it with a few irons in the fire. Excuse the pun.

 


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Lyons550 Flag Shirley 26 Jun 18 1.22pm Send a Private Message to Lyons550 Add Lyons550 as a friend

Originally posted by the.universal

Firstly, he won’t stay fit.

Secondly, England have really s***e central midfielders. Henderson, Dier, Delph are all pretty average to compare against, and I’d argue they are all (a lot) better than Wilshere anyway. For some reason, people rate Wilshere. What has he ever done? Given the ball away a lot.

That's a lazy assessment borne from outdated stats...as someone else stated, in the last 2 x seasons he played far more games, which would suggest that he's come through the injury prone years.

I understand why you suggest it...but you can't do so as fact.

 


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dp Flag Tunbridge Wells 26 Jun 18 9.43pm Send a Private Message to dp Add dp as a friend

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

Do you think West Ham’s signing on fee offer is 3 years worth of wages above what ours is because if it isn’t you’d have to be bat sh1t crazy to take it and bat sh1t crazy to offer it. Never going to happen, which is why it doesn’t happen with good players in their 20’s.

West Ham have probably tried it on and Wilshire is having none of it with a few irons in the fire. Excuse the pun.

Yes, but what do West Ham have to gain from offering it anyway? If he does well, he is not their player at the end of the season, if he does badly, he is a free agent at the end of the season too.

I get the point as to why he might not accept it anyway, but when teams are looking to sign younger players up to 5 year deals (e.g. Zaha), what have West Ham to gain by signing him on a 1 year deal?

 

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black eagle. Flag south croydon. 27 Jun 18 9.09am Send a Private Message to black eagle. Add black eagle. as a friend

Wilshire on a free.

Loftus Cheek on loan.

Booom,would love both to happen.

 

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matthau Flag South Croydon 27 Jun 18 11.10am Send a Private Message to matthau Add matthau as a friend

Ings up front and this new Russian striker link I’ve read today

 

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Jacey Flag 27 Jun 18 11.29am Send a Private Message to Jacey Add Jacey as a friend

Originally posted by black eagle.

Wilshire on a free.

Loftus Cheek on loan.

Booom,would love both to happen.

It's great to have a dream!!

 

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black eagle. Flag south croydon. 27 Jun 18 1.16pm Send a Private Message to black eagle. Add black eagle. as a friend

Originally posted by Jacey

It's great to have a dream!!

Yes and dreams sometimes come true.

 

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davehuggins Flag 27 Jun 18 3.47pm Send a Private Message to davehuggins Add davehuggins as a friend

positive stuff coming out from media... hoping for RLC on loan new striker and Cabaye signs extension

 

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MrCParrot Flag Taunton 28 Jun 18 7.18am Send a Private Message to MrCParrot Add MrCParrot as a friend

Maybe Lanzini getting a serious injury makes Wilshire to West Ham a more likely deal now.

I hope Jack makes a decision soon.

Parrot

 


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MrCParrot Flag Taunton 29 Jun 18 7.22am Send a Private Message to MrCParrot Add MrCParrot as a friend

there's a WTF story linking him to a move to Turkey!

"Arsenal midfielder Jack Wilshere will confirm a move to Fenerbahce on Monday, according to reports in Turkey"

surely this is BS?

Parrot

 


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dp Flag Tunbridge Wells 29 Jun 18 9.26am Send a Private Message to dp Add dp as a friend

Probably agent speak. Trying to encourage someone from elsewhere to step forward.

 

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