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nickgusset  Shizzlehurst 26 Sep 17 4.39pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Did you read my words? I'll wager they are far more likely to be shot by another black person. But you like the white cop bad narrative. Surprise surprise. May be they are. But we are talking about the police shooting unarmed people. You are complaining about people speaking out about it.
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  Hrolf The Ganger 26 Sep 17 4.40pm |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
Just sportsmen, what about other public professionals such as Musicians, Artists, Writers etc Anyone who abuses their position to get exposure.
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 26 Sep 17 4.40pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Did you read my words? I'll wager they are far more likely to be shot by another black person. But you like the white cop bad narrative. Surprise surprise. They're both problems. However one of them is a crime the other one is sanctioned by the state. Whilst shooting other people is deplorable, it does carry very severe legal sentences. I'm not sure what you'd be protesting to change there. Where as someone killed by a representative of the state law enforcement, seems to be characteristically acceptable, if the victim is poor. Interestingly, this doesn't seem to be so much of a problem elsewhere in the world.
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| Hrolf The Ganger 26 Sep 17 4.40pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
May be they are. But we are talking about the police shooting unarmed people. You are complaining about people speaking out about it. No I'm not.
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| PaddyMcPaddy 26 Sep 17 4.41pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Personally, I don't want to see or hear Eddie Izzard, Russel Brand, Joey Barton or any other celebrity or sportsman using their fame for political ends or protest. To be fair i do agree with you to an extent on this. I think this is more down to those people and what they would protest rather than the right to protest. In the case of the American Sport stars I think the silent protest is acceptable. They aren't actually ramming a political protest down your throat or talking nonsense.
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 26 Sep 17 4.42pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Anyone who abuses their position to get exposure. So you'd agree with taking Fox News off the air, along with all those radio stations and internet stations that effectively utilise someone using their position to influence politics. These are very much situations where individuals use their celebrity or fame, to pursue political agendas.
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| hedgehog50 Croydon 26 Sep 17 4.42pm |
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Originally posted by PaddyMcPaddy
To be fair i do agree with you to an extent on this. I think this is more down to those people and what they would protest rather than the right to protest. In the case of the American Sport stars I think the silent protest is acceptable. They aren't actually ramming a political protest down your throat or talking nonsense. No, just looking like utter t***s.
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 26 Sep 17 4.46pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
No I'm not. Then why the ire against NFL players
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| PaddyMcPaddy 26 Sep 17 4.46pm |
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Originally posted by hedgehog50
No, just looking like utter t***s. That's your opinion and that's fine. Although you may want to question why it has angered you so much. An event in a country you don't live in, in a sport you don't care for. Is slightly odd.
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| Hrolf The Ganger 26 Sep 17 4.48pm |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
They're both problems. However one of them is a crime the other one is sanctioned by the state. Whilst shooting other people is deplorable, it does carry very severe legal sentences. I'm not sure what you'd be protesting to change there. Where as someone killed by a representative of the state law enforcement, seems to be characteristically acceptable, if the victim is poor. People in South America, North Korea, China etc, might disagree. No one is saying police killings don't have to be justified. It's more that self-interested groups are using it as a political sledgehammer, while diverting from much bigger issues that are less likely to encourage sympathy, at the same time. Politics. Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (26 Sep 2017 4.50pm)
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| Hrolf The Ganger 26 Sep 17 4.49pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Then why the ire against NFL players Can you actually read?
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 26 Sep 17 4.50pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Personally, I don't want to see or hear Eddie Izzard, Russel Brand, Joey Barton or any other celebrity or sportsman using their fame for political ends or protest. Yet they all do. The entire alt-right is almost based on this. You have actors leading the NRA, a reality tv star in the white house etc. Its the norm, people use their position for influence.
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