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  Hrolf The Ganger  21 Jun 17 7.12pm |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
The manipulation of the housing market is what has fvcked over the younger generation big time. Those in charge of housing policy in the 80's- where the perniciousness began - should hang their heads in shame at their betrayal for the many millions of UK kids from back then who are in their 30's now, and with more to come behind them in their twenties, and the rest after them for the foreseeable future. You can't blame Thatcher for the millions of immigrants who have come here and had kids in the last 20 years. Yes rents are far too high but greater demand for housing has to be largely due to immigration.
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 21 Jun 17 7.15pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
What you describe is not ideal but you can't really think the young have it hard compared to the past? The baby boomers and their kids had it good in some ways but overall the youth today have a relatively soft life. Apart from being saddled with debt and very little chance of getting a house.
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| Mr_Gristle In the land of Whelk Eaters 21 Jun 17 7.19pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
What you describe is not ideal but you can't really think the young have it hard compared to the past? The baby boomers and their kids had it good in some ways but overall the youth today have a relatively soft life. I agree with this to quite some degree - modern life is "soft" for many young people by some definitions for sure. However, I was able to leave school at 16 with a clutch of O levels and get a job. I didn't have to go to Uni and pick up any form of debt - I actually started earning my own money at 16. I was also able, in my late 20's, to get a mortgage on a 1-bedroom starter home in the home counties on my own single wage plus my own savings. Do you think any of that's possible for young people today? They may have access to the trappings of 21st century consumerism, but they are monumentally screwed compared with earlier generations.
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| Hrolf The Ganger 21 Jun 17 7.25pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Apart from being saddled with debt and very little chance of getting a house. The university debt issue is greatly exaggerated and mass immigration has caused the housing shortage above anything else. Tony Blair opened the flood gates.
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| Hrolf The Ganger 21 Jun 17 7.37pm |
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Originally posted by Mr_Gristle
I agree with this to quite some degree - modern life is "soft" for many young people by some definitions for sure. However, I was able to leave school at 16 with a clutch of O levels and get a job. I didn't have to go to Uni and pick up any form of debt - I actually started earning my own money at 16. I was also able, in my late 20's, to get a mortgage on a 1-bedroom starter home in the home counties on my own single wage plus my own savings. Do you think any of that's possible for young people today? They may have access to the trappings of 21st century consumerism, but they are monumentally screwed compared with earlier generations. I'm delighted that my kids have the opportunity to go to a Grammar school and University. My daughter has just graduated and I'm very happy that she didn't endure the crappy comprehensive education I got and the indifference to education that my parents and grandparents showed because their 'class' didn't aspire to higher education.
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| Mr_Gristle In the land of Whelk Eaters 21 Jun 17 7.44pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
The university debt issue is greatly exaggerated and mass immigration has caused the housing shortage above anything else. Tony Blair opened the flood gates. You do realise that Blair and "New Labour" are on the scum list for many whom you would consider "left wingers"? Pushing at an open door there. New Labour hasn't been in power for years. What have more recent governments more to your political persuasion done to rebalance the terrible things they did regarding immigration, housing and social mobility?
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| serial thriller The Promised Land 21 Jun 17 8.04pm |
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So...16 pages of moaning about an event attended by around 400 people. What the f*ck is wrong with you lot?
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| Hrolf The Ganger 21 Jun 17 8.35pm |
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Originally posted by Mr_Gristle
You do realise that Blair and "New Labour" are on the scum list for many whom you would consider "left wingers"? Pushing at an open door there. New Labour hasn't been in power for years. What have more recent governments more to your political persuasion done to rebalance the terrible things they did regarding immigration, housing and social mobility? I understand that, but recognising Blair for what he was with hindsight should be a warning for those are now treating Corbyn like he is the new messiah. Different politics, same bulls***. The answer to the second part is not enough, but believing Corbyn to be the solution is a big mistake. Br careful what you wish for.
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| gambler Kent 21 Jun 17 9.07pm |
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Originally posted by serial thriller
So...16 pages of moaning about an event attended by around 400 people. What the f*ck is wrong with you lot? Init
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| Hrolf The Ganger 21 Jun 17 9.13pm |
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Originally posted by serial thriller
So...16 pages of moaning about an event attended by around 400 people. What the f*ck is wrong with you lot? I blame the Tories.
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| Mapletree Croydon 21 Jun 17 9.25pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
I blame the Tories. Interesting how politics seems to be a surrogate for football. Perhaps it's just another form of tribalism. But just remember which takes precedence, we are all Palace despite being lefty pinko/righty fascist/ginger/black/white/fat/old/young blah blah blah
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Kermit8  Hevon 21 Jun 17 9.26pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
You can't blame Thatcher for the millions of immigrants who have come here and had kids in the last 20 years. Yes rents are far too high but greater demand for housing has to be largely due to immigration. Nothing to do then with people getting older, the baby boomers, the lack of replacement social housing for sold off Council stock, the deregulation of rent controls back in the 80's, the rise of feminism and the single female and their accommodation needs? Ok. Let's just pretend we are all in No Immigrant Hrolf World where everything is perfect and the above points are just figments of imaginations.
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