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hedgehog50  Croydon 23 May 17 6.45pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Is that the same new left that want to take us back to the seventies? Why are you and Kermit discussing my politics on this thread? What has it do with the atrocity carried out by Salman Abedi.
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 Stirlingsays 23 May 17 6.46pm |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
Well, just doing a quick memory check 14, 15 including me, out of 30 of my classmates at school in the 70's/early 80's had non-English parents and i'll bet out the other 15 a fair few would have had at least one grand-parent who wasn't born here too. According to the last census only sixty percent of people in England call themselves English. Well, I'm English, always was and always will be.....And we are too full, so some of them should bugger off to 'insert country here' if they don't consider themselves as English. Too many here fleecing off the back of the English economy.
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| michaelpearce grays 23 May 17 6.46pm |
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I cant believe what im reading are you sick in the head kids have died and all you lot want to do is reply to someone that has a very sad life just saw more pictures of people running around with there f***ing phones on recording did they sell them on all look at yourselfs people have died
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Cannonball  High in the Ozarks. 23 May 17 7.02pm |
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Any terrorists caught should be executed ,not imprisoned .
Touch my coffee and I will slap you so hard even Google won't be able to find you. |
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pefwin  Where you have to have an English ... 23 May 17 7.06pm |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
Abrahamic monotheistic religions.
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| pefwin Where you have to have an English ... 23 May 17 7.11pm |
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Originally posted by matt_himself
I am delighted that you all have put petty political point scoring aside. Well said Matt, even the politicians have managed to stop campaigning for 24 hrs.
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Kermit8  Hevon 23 May 17 7.20pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
According to the last census only sixty percent of people in England call themselves English. Well, I'm English, always was and always will be.....And we are too full, so some of them should bugger off to 'insert country here' if they don't consider themselves as English. Too many here fleecing off the back of the English economy. I thought you said you had Northern Irish heritage on here recently or am I mistaken?
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| Stirlingsays 23 May 17 7.27pm |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
I thought you said you had Northern Irish heritage on here recently or am I mistaken? Yeah, my father is Northern Irish, so what? He fecked off early on. Edited by Stirlingsays (23 May 2017 7.28pm)
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| Kermit8 Hevon 23 May 17 7.40pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Yeah, my father is Northern Irish, so what? He fecked off early on. Edited by Stirlingsays (23 May 2017 7.28pm) It was just a follow-on from what Hrolf said about my 'heritage' line being "crap". It isn't. It's up to the individual of course but I don't think it is unreasonable either way if someone who was born here does or doesn't call themselves English when their parents aren't.
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| Stirlingsays 23 May 17 7.50pm |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
It was just a follow-on from what Hrolf said about my 'heritage' line being "crap". It isn't. It's up to the individual of course but I don't think it is unreasonable either way if someone who was born here does or doesn't call themselves English when their parents aren't. If your parents were raised elsewhere but you weren't....well you don't have to consider yourself English no...that's fair....Well there are exceptions but all things being normal if you don't eventually leave and go and settle where you do call yourself....Well I think there is a certain amount of convenience and hypocrisy about that.....It's ripe for criticism. It's a part of the devaluing of nationality. Not for me. Edited by Stirlingsays (23 May 2017 7.51pm)
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| elgrande bedford 23 May 17 8.00pm |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
Well, just doing a quick memory check 14, 15 including me, out of 30 of my classmates at school in the 70's/early 80's had non-English parents and i'll bet out the other 15 a fair few would have had at least one grand-parent who wasn't born here too. Am I right in thinking you went to St Josephs ...
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| Kermit8 Hevon 23 May 17 8.03pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
If your parents were raised elsewhere but you weren't....well you don't have to consider yourself English no...that's fair....Well there are exceptions but all things being normal if you don't eventually leave and go and settle where you do call yourself....Well I think there is a certain amount of convenience and hypocrisy about that.....It's ripe for criticism. It's a part of the devaluing of nationality. Not for me. Edited by Stirlingsays (23 May 2017 7.51pm) Well, your geographical home does not have to reflect your sense of who you are 100% which is why we have London born Cypriots and suchlike still calling themselves 'Cypriot'. Perfectly acceptable in my book due to their very strong family and cultural ties with the place. It will dilute over time as new generations appear which again is entirely reasonable. I wonder how many third or fourth generation Windrush descendents would not think of themselves as English by now? Not many i would guess. You will be pleased to know my Exeter-born children, even though i do my best to instill(brainwash) their jock heritage, are unmoved by that as it stands
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