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Brentmiester_General  Front line in the battle against t... 03 Mar 18 5.29pm |
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Oh has Steve Parish done something wrong today?
"We love you Palace, we f@cking hate Man U, We love you Palace, we hate the brighton too, We love you Palace we play in red 'n' blue, so f@ck you, and you ... |
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 TheExpatEagle  03 Mar 18 5.32pm |
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Originally posted by alaneagle1
The two that went were not playing in the first 11. When you don't have strike options letting strikers go, of any level, is utter stupidity. Is Wan Bassika ready for the Premier League? No, yet he did a good job. Who knows how Ladapo might have done given a chance? Chances are neither would have done much but... Look at Benteke!
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| TheExpatEagle 03 Mar 18 5.34pm |
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Originally posted by alaneagle1
Bolasie wanted to go.Sold him for good money and purchased Tomkins,Townsend And Benteke. I'm not continually moaning, maybe you are confusing me with someone else? What I said was, Parish didn't splash cash on Benteke. He sold Bolasie to pay for the transfer. He spent just £11m that summer, which for a club in the PL is nothing and the impact is showing now.
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| TheExpatEagle 03 Mar 18 5.34pm |
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Originally posted by askyourself
I think I'll have a moan about the chairman and the way our club is run .......... Wow! You really are deluded. But fair play, I wish I was on whatever you are on!
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| TheExpatEagle 03 Mar 18 5.38pm |
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Originally posted by Eaglecoops
IMO this is the secret to being successful as a small club. If you nail the academy you are bringing players through who can be sold if needs be to balance the books. Reactive signings keep you up but you end up fire fighting all the time. If we could produce one Wilf standard player a season it would make a massive difference to the club. Jordan had his faults but we had academy players come thorough under him. Wilf and Johnny being the last to make 10 or more appearances for the first team. So many people think they are Parish products but are wrong.
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| TheExpatEagle 03 Mar 18 5.41pm |
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Originally posted by Aray
Talk about revising history. Everyone - well almost everyone thought we got top dollar for Yala. And he wanted to go. We needed a proper striker and we got one - he's since forgotten how to do that but that is another thread. And as for the rest of this nonsense. The only reason we're not a selling club is because the chairman and owners are trying to build it up rather than earn as much dosh as poss. Plenty of clubs have tried to get Wilf. And the fact that the chairman isn't on his own is because of the consortium he was part of that purchased the club. You're not being entirely logical - are you? You missed my point. I didn't say we got ripped off, I was countering the person who said Parish stumped up the cash to pay for Benteke when he clearly didn't. We got good money for Bolasie and it paid for Benteke. I never wanted Benteke and I still don't today. Again, regarding the consortium, people slag off Jordan, Noades and so on but praise Parish. My point was he isn't a one ban band like the other's were so the burden of the club wasn't on one man like it was before. Clear enough or should I draw you a picture?
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 Bill Glazier Mitcham 03 Mar 18 5.52pm |
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Originally posted by TheExpatEagle
You missed my point. I didn't say we got ripped off, I was countering the person who said Parish stumped up the cash to pay for Benteke when he clearly didn't. We got good money for Bolasie and it paid for Benteke. I never wanted Benteke and I still don't today. Clear enough or should I draw you a picture?
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 03 Mar 18 5.55pm |
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Originally posted by ex hibitionist
there have been mistakes ,but you have to put things into context. The last top flight season we went through without having been a genuine relegation candidate at some point was 1991-92. We've spent proper money - esp last Jan, managers have been backed by SP - we've got an unbalanced squad with some sick notes, flops and prima donnas on too high wages, and we're not improving raw talent enough - but we're in the prem for a record fifth season with a stadium improvement which will transform the club and have a manager who has managed England, Liverpool and Inter - expectations have been raised and Parrish needs to change our model from fire-fighting to building, but any criticism he gets must be tempered with the achievements he has made so far and the investment which has come in, which has been massive by our usual standards - look at Ipswich, Hull, Sunderland ... things could be a lot worse. I don't think we'll go down, but I reckon Roy will stay if we do and he'll turn us into a lean machine post Zaha (hopefully he can do that in the prem) - and that is a serious consideration - because we are not a good side without him. Actually I'd say the last time we weren't relegation threatened was Pardew's 2nd season. Although the 2nd half of the season was dog shyte in the league, we weren't really in actual trouble. We needed a trickle of points and did get them like we thought. It was relegation form that's for sure, but the season wasn't a relegation threatened season. The reason is we were prepared for the 1st match onwards. When we aren't we put ourselves in the sh1t.
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| ex hibitionist Hastings 03 Mar 18 6.02pm |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
Actually I'd say the last time we weren't relegation threatened was Pardew's 2nd season. Although the 2nd half of the season was dog shyte in the league, we weren't really in actual trouble. We needed a trickle of points and did get them like we thought. It was relegation form that's for sure, but the season wasn't a relegation threatened season. The reason is we were prepared for the 1st match onwards. When we aren't we put ourselves in the sh1t. True-ish, but the 1-0 home win v Norwich was a relegation six-pointer of sorts. My point was though that fans who seem somehow surprised we are in a relegation fight should not be - though maybe with the money we've spent and the pedigree of some of our players we are entitled to expect more, but more than Stoke, West Ham, Swansea ... maybe not?
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| TheExpatEagle 03 Mar 18 6.06pm |
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Originally posted by Bill Glazier
Well fortunately your opinion like mine is worthless to the club. Yeah, Benteke is such a good player... Actually he might be. It could be that he is playing in the wrong team playing the wrong style. Either way, I am entitled to think he isn't the right player for us and in an inflated market we'll never get anywhere near the money we paid for him. Think I'm wrong? Two words, Llorente and Giroud. Llorente might not be considered as good as Benteke but Giroud is and he went for £15m-£18m.
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| Eaglecoops CR3 03 Mar 18 6.07pm |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
Producing one Wilf standard player a season is unrealistic. When has any club ever done that in recent times? One obvious answer is better scouting. The Palace scouting outside of the prem and championship has been almost non existent until recently. Until recently we only signed Souare and Luca who've never played in England and I bet Pardew got wind of Souare while at Newcastle. We weren't sure enough on Rincon or Tosun. Whether they will or would've come good isn't really the point. We dipped our toes in not being very sure and closed the door. It's damaging to English players but inevitable without rules to prevent this being advantageous. Incidentally with a grade B academy training at goals (and the local fools objecting to larger field of training pitches which may result in more housing) I don't see a conveyor belt of talent being developed any time soon. Why is it unrealistic? Man Utd produced 7 in one season in the Beckham era and continue to produce one or two gems every year. Chelsea produce tons of new talent every year, but you don't see that many as they hardly ever get a chance in the first team because they have the money to burn on ready made players. As you know we have a bigger natural resource of talent in our area than most of the big teams as the biggest club in South London. We need to convert that numbers advantage into promising players. If we want to get the training facilities up to scratch then the training ground should be moved, maybe to Crystal Palace. I would actually place the training facilities ahead of a new stand in terms of importance. Incidently, you say our scouting network needs to be improved but do you know how it currently works and how it could be improved? I would be interested to know.
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| Goldfiinger Just down the road 03 Mar 18 6.13pm |
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I'd agree in putting a acedmy upgrade above the stadium, that being said im pretty sure the club are also trying to get planning permission to upgrade the training facilities. Someone will correct me if im wrong but I think we submitted last year and it was rejected. I'd assume we're reworking those plans. Also just becuase we haven't produced players in a while reaching the 1st team doesn't mean that we haven't got players in the system which will make the break through. I'd suspect in the next few years we'll see a fair few break through. As the under 23's are flying and full of talent. So hopefully it's just a matter of time before that starts to help the first team.
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