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Tim Gypsy Hill '64 Stoke sub normal 12 Dec 16 11.23pm
Originally posted by NickinOX Surely, we should be aware of the club's history even if we should not be bound by it? For the record, our best league finishes in 111 years are: 3rd, 10th, 10th, 11th, 13th, 15th, 15th, 20th, 18th, 20th, and R, R, R, R, R, R. Not great is it? So, while we should aspire to better I don't think we should take our status for granted and expect we will be a solid mid table team when we have only once been in the top flight this long. To say otherwise is surely both unrealistic and ahistoric. As such, I would like to see a change of manager but, again, I find the routine abusive comments and the extreme claims about how bad AP is as a manager to be asinine in the extreme and factually false. He is our second best manager in terms of league placing and in serious cup competitions. Only one manager has done better in our entire history. In *THAT* period, Coppell's win % was less than Pardew's is now. [Link] Just to clarify for the "fans" who think Pardew is our worst ever manager. Edited by Tim Gypsy Hill '64 (12 Dec 2016 11.37pm) Systematically dragged down by the lawmakers
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Originally posted by NickinOX

Surely, we should be aware of the club's history even if we should not be bound by it?

For the record, our best league finishes in 111 years are: 3rd, 10th, 10th, 11th, 13th, 15th, 15th, 20th, 18th, 20th, and R, R, R, R, R, R. Not great is it?

So, while we should aspire to better I don't think we should take our status for granted and expect we will be a solid mid table team when we have only once been in the top flight this long. To say otherwise is surely both unrealistic and ahistoric.

As such, I would like to see a change of manager but, again, I find the routine abusive comments and the extreme claims about how bad AP is as a manager to be asinine in the extreme and factually false. He is our second best manager in terms of league placing and in serious cup competitions. Only one manager has done better in our entire history.

In THAT period, Coppell's win % was less than Pardew's is now.

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Just to clarify for the "fans" who think Pardew is our worst ever manager.

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Inapickle South West 12 Dec 16 11.36pm
Originally posted by Rudi Hedman What the feck has 30 years ago got to do with now? Yes I do remember the black seats in the main stand, Rossis Refreshments, peanut sellers in white coats. 72 clubs would love to be where we are and be doing what's required to keep us here. Rolling over having our tummies tickled and throwing away 1,2,3 points week after week and embarrassing ourselves is not doing that. Feck it, keep the loser, settle for less or anything mentality. That's how to succeed and stay wher we are after all. Jesus feck. ..you are assuming the very very worse, I on the other hand assume the best and can see our defence improving and have witnessed it during the last two games, we are struggling back there and so are all the other teams up to Bournemouth in twelfth who are only three points away, we have the best goal diff up to Southampton who are tenth with only five points more then us. I can see us beating moan.u on Wednesday and I'm going to enjoy the build up and game, you appear to be not enjoying this season, if we stay up I'm going to say I enjoyed that, If we go down I'm going to say I didn't enjoy those last damaging games but I enjoyed all the others ..whereas you are just going to be sad and miserable the whole season long and if we do survive you might very well regret missing out on a great entertaining season.
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South West 12 Dec 16 11.36pm

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

What the feck has 30 years ago got to do with now?

Yes I do remember the black seats in the main stand, Rossis Refreshments, peanut sellers in white coats.

72 clubs would love to be where we are and be doing what's required to keep us here. Rolling over having our tummies tickled and throwing away 1,2,3 points week after week and embarrassing ourselves is not doing that.

Feck it, keep the loser, settle for less or anything mentality. That's how to succeed and stay wher we are after all. Jesus feck.

..you are assuming the very very worse, I on the other hand assume the best and can see our defence improving and have witnessed it during the last two games, we are struggling back there and so are all the other teams up to Bournemouth in twelfth who are only three points away, we have the best goal diff up to Southampton who are tenth with only five points more then us.

I can see us beating moan.u on Wednesday and I'm going to enjoy the build up and game, you appear to be not enjoying this season, if we stay up I'm going to say I enjoyed that, If we go down I'm going to say I didn't enjoy those last damaging games but I enjoyed all the others ..whereas you are just going to be sad and miserable the whole season long and if we do survive you might very well regret missing out on a great entertaining season.

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Rudi Hedman Caterham 12 Dec 16 11.38pm
Originally posted by Tim Gypsy Hill '64 41% win rate. Stop frothing at the mouth. When the squads watch the recent videos of us they do not care about Coppell, Smith, Bassett Pardew pre Christmas 2015. All they care about is how weak, pathetic and unprepared and unaware of what's about to happen in front of us and how confident they are of exploiting it. And they are because of how sh1te and pathetic we've been this season spreading back into last season. That is what they're aware of. All the excusers and white flag wavers bring up form of 12 months ago backwards. Unbelievable. Oh well, the bloke will be gone soon hopefully or we go down and I'll give myself some more Saturdays back and miss the sh1t teams midweek even though still paying whilst a lot of the pro Pardew brigade won't have internet access any more. ha ha. COYP
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Rudi Hedman

Caterham 12 Dec 16 11.38pm

Originally posted by Tim Gypsy Hill '64

41% win rate. Stop frothing at the mouth.

When the squads watch the recent videos of us they do not care about Coppell, Smith, Bassett Pardew pre Christmas 2015. All they care about is how weak, pathetic and unprepared and unaware of what's about to happen in front of us and how confident they are of exploiting it. And they are because of how sh1te and pathetic we've been this season spreading back into last season. That is what they're aware of. All the excusers and white flag wavers bring up form of 12 months ago backwards. Unbelievable.

Oh well, the bloke will be gone soon hopefully or we go down and I'll give myself some more Saturdays back and miss the sh1t teams midweek even though still paying whilst a lot of the pro Pardew brigade won't have internet access any more. ha ha.

COYP

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Rudi Hedman Caterham 12 Dec 16 11.40pm
Originally posted by Inapickle ..you are assuming the very very worse, I on the other hand assume the best and can see our defence improving and have witnessed it during the last two games, we are struggling back there and so are all the other teams up to Bournemouth in twelfth who are only three points away, we have the best goal diff up to Southampton who are tenth with only five points more then us. I can see us beating moan.u on Wednesday and I'm going to enjoy the build up and game, you appear to be not enjoying this season, if we stay up I'm going to say I enjoyed that, If we go down I'm going to say I didn't enjoy those last damaging games but I enjoyed all the others ..whereas you are just going to be sad and miserable the whole season long and if we do survive you might very well regret missing out on a great entertaining season. This is where you and he have got it all wrong. If you don't know that now you never will. COYP
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Caterham 12 Dec 16 11.40pm

Originally posted by Inapickle

This is where you and he have got it all wrong. If you don't know that now you never will.

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Tim Gypsy Hill '64 Stoke sub normal 12 Dec 16 11.46pm
Originally posted by Rudi Hedman This is where you and he have got it all wrong. If you don't know that now you never will. And you don't know that we will be relegated. Read back what you write! Systematically dragged down by the lawmakers
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Tim Gypsy Hill '64

Stoke sub normal 12 Dec 16 11.46pm

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

This is where you and he have got it all wrong. If you don't know that now you never will.

And you don't know that we will be relegated. Read back what you write!

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Rudi Hedman Caterham 12 Dec 16 11.51pm
Originally posted by Tim Gypsy Hill '64 And you don't know that we will be relegated. Read back what you write! This is what I said, 'Oh well, the bloke will be gone soon hopefully or we go down and I'll give myself some more Saturdays back and miss the sh1t teams midweek even though still paying whilst a lot of the pro Pardew brigade won't have internet access any more. ha ha.' Or he'll keep us in unnecessary danger with his long losing runs or whoever scores 2 goals near the end wins strategy without any discipline or anyone understanding what everyone else is doing. Great management. COYP
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Rudi Hedman

Caterham 12 Dec 16 11.51pm

Originally posted by Tim Gypsy Hill '64

And you don't know that we will be relegated. Read back what you write!

This is what I said,

'Oh well, the bloke will be gone soon hopefully or we go down and I'll give myself some more Saturdays back and miss the sh1t teams midweek even though still paying whilst a lot of the pro Pardew brigade won't have internet access any more. ha ha.'

Or he'll keep us in unnecessary danger with his long losing runs or whoever scores 2 goals near the end wins strategy without any discipline or anyone understanding what everyone else is doing. Great management.

COYP

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RH8Eagle Oxted 12 Dec 16 11.53pm
Originally posted by Rudi Hedman What the feck has 30 years ago got to do with now? Yes I do remember the black seats in the main stand, Rossis Refreshments, peanut sellers in white coats. 72 clubs would love to be where we are and be doing what's required to keep us here. Rolling over having our tummies tickled and throwing away 1,2,3 points week after week and embarrassing ourselves is not doing that. Feck it, keep the loser, settle for less or anything mentality. That's how to succeed and stay wher we are after all. Jesus feck. Am I one of the Rudi 3 ? So you are obviously saying "get rid of the loser" how are you so sure someone else is going to take us to where you think we should be. Yes we are looking shaky ATM and leaking too many goals but we are scoring a few also so some things are going ok. Tighten the defence up a bit we should be fine and we have most of the players to achieve it and I feel they are still playing for AP. Obviously I can see he is under pressure and runs like we have been on can't go on that long, he knows it SP knows it we all do but some people like you are less patient.
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Oxted 12 Dec 16 11.53pm

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

What the feck has 30 years ago got to do with now?

Yes I do remember the black seats in the main stand, Rossis Refreshments, peanut sellers in white coats.

72 clubs would love to be where we are and be doing what's required to keep us here. Rolling over having our tummies tickled and throwing away 1,2,3 points week after week and embarrassing ourselves is not doing that.

Feck it, keep the loser, settle for less or anything mentality. That's how to succeed and stay wher we are after all. Jesus feck.

Am I one of the Rudi 3 ?
So you are obviously saying "get rid of the loser" how are you so sure someone else is going to take us to where you think we should be. Yes we are looking shaky ATM and leaking too many goals but we are scoring a few also so some things are going ok. Tighten the defence up a bit we should be fine and we have most of the players to achieve it and I feel they are still playing for AP. Obviously I can see he is under pressure and runs like we have been on can't go on that long, he knows it SP knows it we all do but some people like you are less patient.

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Inapickle South West 12 Dec 16 11.59pm
Originally posted by Rudi Hedman This is where you and he have got it all wrong. If you don't know that now you never will. ..yes, because you're assuming we're doomed, I do not believe for one second that we are.
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Inapickle

South West 12 Dec 16 11.59pm

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

This is where you and he have got it all wrong. If you don't know that now you never will.

..yes, because you're assuming we're doomed, I do not believe for one second that we are.

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Rudi Hedman Caterham 13 Dec 16 12.05am
Originally posted by RH8Eagle Am I one of the Rudi 3 ? So you are obviously saying "get rid of the loser" how are you so sure someone else is going to take us to where you think we should be. Yes we are looking shaky ATM and leaking too many goals but we are scoring a few also so some things are going ok. Tighten the defence up a bit we should be fine and we have most of the players to achieve it and I feel they are still playing for AP. Obviously I can see he is under pressure and runs like we have been on can't go on that long, he knows it SP knows it we all do but some people like you are less patient. 1. I think we should be able to not let in 5 vs Swansea, 3 in all the games around that one, including 2 more dross sides, Burnley and facking Hull. 2. Tighten up like he said we had the day before 5 goals conceded vs Swansea? Then the players had to call their own defensive training for Southampton, Pardew accepted, his neck was on the line after all, then back to joke defending again away from 20,000 of us. 3. 'Runs like we have been on can't go on that long.' Are you for real? How long did it go on for last time? The only reason we beat Southampton was their schedule caught up with them and yes, at some point a coupon buster happens. Is that what we're now relying on, playing teams in really bad formi like the other 3 wins this season? FFS, we've come so far and are letting sentiment keep this sh1t going. Any outsider would've been gone ages ago. COYP
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Rudi Hedman

Caterham 13 Dec 16 12.05am

Originally posted by RH8Eagle

Am I one of the Rudi 3 ?
So you are obviously saying "get rid of the loser" how are you so sure someone else is going to take us to where you think we should be. Yes we are looking shaky ATM and leaking too many goals but we are scoring a few also so some things are going ok. Tighten the defence up a bit we should be fine and we have most of the players to achieve it and I feel they are still playing for AP. Obviously I can see he is under pressure and runs like we have been on can't go on that long, he knows it SP knows it we all do but some people like you are less patient.

1. I think we should be able to not let in 5 vs Swansea, 3 in all the games around that one, including 2 more dross sides, Burnley and facking Hull.

2. Tighten up like he said we had the day before 5 goals conceded vs Swansea? Then the players had to call their own defensive training for Southampton, Pardew accepted, his neck was on the line after all, then back to joke defending again away from 20,000 of us.

3. 'Runs like we have been on can't go on that long.' Are you for real? How long did it go on for last time? The only reason we beat Southampton was their schedule caught up with them and yes, at some point a coupon buster happens. Is that what we're now relying on, playing teams in really bad formi like the other 3 wins this season? FFS, we've come so far and are letting sentiment keep this sh1t going. Any outsider would've been gone ages ago.

COYP

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RH8Eagle Oxted 13 Dec 16 12.10am
Originally posted by Rudi Hedman Oh well, the bloke will be gone soon hopefully or we go down and I'll give myself some more Saturdays back and miss the sh1t teams midweek even though still paying whilst a lot of the pro Pardew brigade won't have internet access any more. ha ha. If the worst does happen I will still be there I go to support the Palace I don't care who they are playing. Why are you going to get rid of my internet though. The kids will have meltdown.
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RH8Eagle

Oxted 13 Dec 16 12.10am

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

If the worst does happen I will still be there I go to support the Palace I don't care who they are playing.
Why are you going to get rid of my internet though. The kids will have meltdown.

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Rudi Hedman Caterham 13 Dec 16 12.27am
Originally posted by RH8Eagle If the worst does happen I will still be there I go to support the Palace I don't care who they are playing. Why are you going to get rid of my internet though. The kids will have meltdown. So do i as I have been for a long time and which is why if we surrender by hanging onto this berk I will give myself some days off. It'll probably be more difficult for me then anyway. They'll still get my loot to pay Pardews wages in the championship which I wouldn't be surprised at. COYP
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Rudi Hedman

Caterham 13 Dec 16 12.27am

Originally posted by RH8Eagle

If the worst does happen I will still be there I go to support the Palace I don't care who they are playing.
Why are you going to get rid of my internet though. The kids will have meltdown.

So do i as I have been for a long time and which is why if we surrender by hanging onto this berk I will give myself some days off. It'll probably be more difficult for me then anyway. They'll still get my loot to pay Pardews wages in the championship which I wouldn't be surprised at.

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Tim Gypsy Hill '64 Stoke sub normal 13 Dec 16 12.30am
Originally posted by Rudi Hedman This is what I said, 'Oh well, the bloke will be gone soon hopefully or we go down and I'll give myself some more Saturdays back and miss the sh1t teams midweek even though still paying whilst a lot of the pro Pardew brigade won't have internet access any more. ha ha.' Or he'll keep us in unnecessary danger with his long losing runs or whoever scores 2 goals near the end wins strategy without any discipline or anyone understanding what everyone else is doing. Great management. And you actually "know" all this? Are you Mystic Meg? You know nothing of the future. You assume that we will fail under Pardew. And we all know that to assume makes an ass of (yo)u and me. He kept Newcastle ticking over quite well, while their chairman sold every decent player they had. Why could he not do that here? Without the chairmen pulling out the rug from under his feet. Systematically dragged down by the lawmakers
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

This is what I said,

And you actually "know" all this? Are you Mystic Meg? You know nothing of the future. You assume that we will fail under Pardew.

And we all know that to assume makes an ass of (yo)u and me.

He kept Newcastle ticking over quite well, while their chairman sold every decent player they had. Why could he not do that here? Without the chairmen pulling out the rug from under his feet.

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