I've calmed down a bit now.

I'm not naive enough to think you can have real honesty in public life. Today at work for example they announced they were sacking some senior people. "A mutual decision, different "strategic" focus, blah blah." Load of tosh and anyone with sense knew it. They were fat, lazy, overpaid and had to go. But you have to tell a room of 400 people a different story.

I accept Cameron can't say, "I am so desperate to stay in power I'd tell even bigger porkies if I had to."

It was just the bare-faced lies of Priti Patel, trotting out her 'line to take', when it was just SO obvious neither she nor anyone in the studio didn't believe a word of it which wound me up.

...we must expand...get more pupils...so that the knowledge will spread...

Cameron's current line is plainly pure politicking posturing. He exemplifies the majority of our political class across the spectrum from UKIP to Labour,principles being scarcer than a Bolasie goal.

Here's what he had to say in January 2013 when he was resisting UKIP demands to be part of any future Leader debate.Don't see any reference to the Greens,since it didn't suit his political manoeuvering at that point.

"David Cameron. told The House magazine “only parties that are going to form the government" should be included. This remark was made with a backdrop that UKIP have in many polls become overall third, pushing the Lib Dems into fourth place.

Mr Cameron said in an interview: "Obviously, we have to decide on this nearer the time, but the TV debates should be about, you know, the parties that are going to form the government, in my view."

The Greens would have had Lee Rigby's killers released by now and asked ever so politely no to do it again.

F*cking nutters.

'We are going to make a little bit of history here’ Mr. J. Ertl.

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gathering momentum...

If it is going to be a case of generically and stereotypically depicting "middle class hippies" at one end beyond the "old party" spectrum, then equally it should perhaps logically also be an accepted depiction by those doing so of middle class "banker types" beyond the other end of the spectrum.

Some people might suggest that those "middle aged hippies" have no understanding of how a civilised society works; others might suggest that "middle class banker types" have a very highly developed sense of how an uncivilised society works!

Edited by legaleagle (20 Jan 2015 12.51am)

Matthew,you are similarly completely entitled to hold whatever views you believe make you feel "superior" including the view (however incorrect it might be in reality) that the views I or someone like me express make me/us feel superior. Don't judge others by different standards to how you would wish to be judged in terms of motives or feelings of supposed "superiority".

But,you miss the basic point I was making, quite apart from the fact your post (and therefore my response) was about the people voters vote for, ie the prominent politicians,not the voters themselves.You (or any of us) can't have it both ways by happily applying a generic stereotype to a party we disagree with but taking umbrage when someone then applies a similar one back to a party you support.So,if the stereotype about UKIP is not something you feel is legitimate to apply,think again about applying similar stereotypes to other parties,such as the Greens.

Edited by legaleagle (20 Jan 2015 2.52pm)