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SE9 EAGLE 07 Feb 14 9.09am
Quote Mapletree at 07 Feb 2014 8.13am Quote SE9 EAGLE at 07 Feb 2014 7.13am Quote Mapletree at 06 Feb 2014 8.32pm Quote Cucking Funt at 06 Feb 2014 8.08pm Quote The Sash at 06 Feb 2014 7.59pm Quote Cucking Funt at 06 Feb 2014 7.52pm Self-righteous frothing and spluttering is always a joy to witness. We are into page 4 and still no tangibility to how gay people are discriminated against at football and by whom and even if they are what the f*** anyone's supposed to do about it. Its just another ill thought out knee jerk 'right on' campaign to a prejudice that isn't seemingly there or if it is it certainly unwarranted. What are these 11 clubs actually going to be doing ???? Edited by The Sash (06 Feb 2014 8.00pm) Still waiting for someone to clarify how anyone's rights are being denied and/or anyone is being in some way discriminated against to such a degree that this sort of campaign becomes necessary. Quite right. No such thing as indirect discrimination which was merely created to give employment lawyers work to do. Can anyone remind me how many 'out' gay footballers there are again please. There are at least 4,000 professional footballers in the UK so 1.5% of that is 60 gay (excluding bisexual) footballers. Edited by Mapletree (06 Feb 2014 8.32pm) So what? Oh for goodness sake. There is a small group of gay men in professional football that have not come out. People wonder why they haven't come out and suspect it is due to deep rooted anti-gay sentiment. Well no sht Sherlock, you just have to read HOL. It's not a big issue but it is indicative of a wider issue of intolerance. A few people decide to try to do something about it, presumably a mix of straight and gay people. Everyone gets fired up saying it's not needed, will rock the boat too much, blah blah. The inherent conservatism on this site is mind-boggling and sadly I assume reflects the broader football supporting family. And I would have thought that - living where we do and drawing supporters from a reasonably tolerant and educated pool - we can't be the worst. People even have a pop at the HF, one of the few unique things we have going for us. I bldy wish people would stop moaning and try to actually be 'do-gooders'. Why is that a pejorative label? Stop sitting on your ase carping and find something to improve. This particular initiative will probably get nowhere but just maybe will be part of a bigger build up of pressure to change attitudes and open eyes. As you mention the HF why not pop into B block on Saturday and see if they want to join your crusade.Maybe encourage one or two to come out of the closet?
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SE9 EAGLE

07 Feb 14 9.09am

Quote Mapletree at 07 Feb 2014 8.13am

Quote SE9 EAGLE at 07 Feb 2014 7.13am

Quote Mapletree at 06 Feb 2014 8.32pm

Quote Cucking Funt at 06 Feb 2014 8.08pm

Quote The Sash at 06 Feb 2014 7.59pm

Quote Cucking Funt at 06 Feb 2014 7.52pm

Self-righteous frothing and spluttering is always a joy to witness.

We are into page 4 and still no tangibility to how gay people are discriminated against at football and by whom and even if they are what the f*** anyone's supposed to do about it.

Its just another ill thought out knee jerk 'right on' campaign to a prejudice that isn't seemingly there or if it is it certainly unwarranted.

What are these 11 clubs actually going to be doing ????

Edited by The Sash (06 Feb 2014 8.00pm)

Still waiting for someone to clarify how anyone's rights are being denied and/or anyone is being in some way discriminated against to such a degree that this sort of campaign becomes necessary.

Quite right. No such thing as indirect discrimination which was merely created to give employment lawyers work to do.

Can anyone remind me how many 'out' gay footballers there are again please. There are at least 4,000 professional footballers in the UK so 1.5% of that is 60 gay (excluding bisexual) footballers.

Edited by Mapletree (06 Feb 2014 8.32pm)

So what?

Oh for goodness sake. There is a small group of gay men in professional football that have not come out. People wonder why they haven't come out and suspect it is due to deep rooted anti-gay sentiment. Well no sh*t Sherlock, you just have to read HOL.

It's not a big issue but it is indicative of a wider issue of intolerance.

A few people decide to try to do something about it, presumably a mix of straight and gay people. Everyone gets fired up saying it's not needed, will rock the boat too much, blah blah.

The inherent conservatism on this site is mind-boggling and sadly I assume reflects the broader football supporting family. And I would have thought that - living where we do and drawing supporters from a reasonably tolerant and educated pool - we can't be the worst.

People even have a pop at the HF, one of the few unique things we have going for us.

I bl**dy wish people would stop moaning and try to actually be 'do-gooders'. Why is that a pejorative label? Stop sitting on your a*se carping and find something to improve.

This particular initiative will probably get nowhere but just maybe will be part of a bigger build up of pressure to change attitudes and open eyes.

As you mention the HF why not pop into B block on Saturday and see if they want to join your crusade.Maybe encourage one or two to come out of the closet?

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Tinhat west wickham 07 Feb 14 9.13am
Quote SE9 EAGLE at 07 Feb 2014 7.17am Quote Tinhat at 06 Feb 2014 8.40pm As a lesbian myself I get really pissed off at tossers campaigning on behalf of me and actually creating an issue that isn't really there. If you are gay, so what, no different from being straight in terms of how people treat you unless you walk around advertising the fact that your gay. People are different,we have fat,thin,ginger,disabled,beautiful,ugly ect ect, is there going to be campaigns on their behalf?. As some have said, bringing attention and banging the drum about how unfair life is, will cause resentment. So please don't campaign on my behalf and don't get offended on my behalf either. I actually found the jokes on here quite funny. Talking of which Nike have just launched their first Lesbian trainers, they have an extra long tongue and you can get them off with one finger. What part of Lesbia do you come from? I said,I found some things on here very funny, Your post isn't, Need to try harder.
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Quote SE9 EAGLE at 07 Feb 2014 7.17am

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As a lesbian myself I get really pissed off at tossers campaigning on behalf of me and actually creating an issue that isn't really there. If you are gay, so what, no different from being straight in terms of how people treat you unless you walk around advertising the fact that your gay. People are different,we have fat,thin,ginger,disabled,beautiful,ugly ect ect, is there going to be campaigns on their behalf?.
As some have said, bringing attention and banging the drum about how unfair life is, will cause resentment.
So please don't campaign on my behalf and don't get offended on my behalf either. I actually found the jokes on here quite funny. Talking of which Nike have just launched their first Lesbian trainers, they have an extra long tongue and you can get them off with one finger.

What part of Lesbia do you come from?

I said,I found some things on here very funny, Your post isn't, Need to try harder.

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SE9 EAGLE 07 Feb 14 9.15am
Quote Tinhat at 07 Feb 2014 9.13am Quote SE9 EAGLE at 07 Feb 2014 7.17am Quote Tinhat at 06 Feb 2014 8.40pm As a lesbian myself I get really pissed off at tossers campaigning on behalf of me and actually creating an issue that isn't really there. If you are gay, so what, no different from being straight in terms of how people treat you unless you walk around advertising the fact that your gay. People are different,we have fat,thin,ginger,disabled,beautiful,ugly ect ect, is there going to be campaigns on their behalf?. As some have said, bringing attention and banging the drum about how unfair life is, will cause resentment. So please don't campaign on my behalf and don't get offended on my behalf either. I actually found the jokes on here quite funny. Talking of which Nike have just launched their first Lesbian trainers, they have an extra long tongue and you can get them off with one finger. What part of Lesbia do you come from? I said,I found some things on here very funny, Your post isn't, Need to try harder. Time of the month is it?
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07 Feb 14 9.15am

Quote Tinhat at 07 Feb 2014 9.13am

Quote SE9 EAGLE at 07 Feb 2014 7.17am

Quote Tinhat at 06 Feb 2014 8.40pm

What part of Lesbia do you come from?

I said,I found some things on here very funny, Your post isn't, Need to try harder.

Time of the month is it?

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jamiemartin721 Reading 07 Feb 14 9.24am
Quote Cucking Funt at 06 Feb 2014 8.08pm Quote The Sash at 06 Feb 2014 7.59pm Quote Cucking Funt at 06 Feb 2014 7.52pm Self-righteous frothing and spluttering is always a joy to witness. We are into page 4 and still no tangibility to how gay people are discriminated against at football and by whom and even if they are what the f*** anyone's supposed to do about it. Its just another ill thought out knee jerk 'right on' campaign to a prejudice that isn't seemingly there or if it is it certainly unwarranted. What are these 11 clubs actually going to be doing ???? Edited by The Sash (06 Feb 2014 8.00pm) Still waiting for someone to clarify how anyone's rights are being denied and/or anyone is being in some way discriminated against to such a degree that this sort of campaign becomes necessary. Its funded by a private enterprise associated with the FA, a private enterprise. I guess its their choice, like the whole kick racism out of football etc. If the state was funding it, then its a different matter. "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]
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Reading 07 Feb 14 9.24am

Quote Cucking Funt at 06 Feb 2014 8.08pm

Quote The Sash at 06 Feb 2014 7.59pm

Quote Cucking Funt at 06 Feb 2014 7.52pm

Self-righteous frothing and spluttering is always a joy to witness.

We are into page 4 and still no tangibility to how gay people are discriminated against at football and by whom and even if they are what the f*** anyone's supposed to do about it.

Its just another ill thought out knee jerk 'right on' campaign to a prejudice that isn't seemingly there or if it is it certainly unwarranted.

What are these 11 clubs actually going to be doing ????

Edited by The Sash (06 Feb 2014 8.00pm)

Still waiting for someone to clarify how anyone's rights are being denied and/or anyone is being in some way discriminated against to such a degree that this sort of campaign becomes necessary.

Its funded by a private enterprise associated with the FA, a private enterprise. I guess its their choice, like the whole kick racism out of football etc.

If the state was funding it, then its a different matter.

"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
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npn Crowborough 07 Feb 14 9.35am
Have any of these people actually bothered to ask any gay players / ex players? All these "they don't come out because..." assumptions without actually bothering to ask the people who know. Maybe, just maybe, they don't come out over their sexual preferences because it's nobody else's fking business?** It would look like Britain's only openly gay player gets abused more because of his height than his sexuality - let's start a 'kick heightophobia out of football' campaign [Link]
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Crowborough 07 Feb 14 9.35am

Have any of these people actually bothered to ask any gay players / ex players? All these "they don't come out because..." assumptions without actually bothering to ask the people who know. Maybe, just maybe, they don't come out over their sexual preferences because it's nobody else's f**king business?

It would look like Britain's only openly gay player gets abused more because of his height than his sexuality - let's start a 'kick heightophobia out of football' campaign

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Mapletree Croydon 07 Feb 14 9.39am
Quote npn at 07 Feb 2014 9.35am Have any of these people actually bothered to ask any gay players / ex players? All these "they don't come out because..." assumptions without actually bothering to ask the people who know. Maybe, just maybe, they don't come out over their sexual preferences because it's nobody else's fking business?** It would look like Britain's only openly gay player gets abused more because of his height than his sexuality - let's start a 'kick heightophobia out of football' campaign [Link] You seem to answer your own question here npn. Apparently they haven't actually bothered to ask the people affected. How do you know this?
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Croydon 07 Feb 14 9.39am

Quote npn at 07 Feb 2014 9.35am

It would look like Britain's only openly gay player gets abused more because of his height than his sexuality - let's start a 'kick heightophobia out of football' campaign

[Link]

You seem to answer your own question here npn. Apparently they haven't actually bothered to ask the people affected. How do you know this?

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paperhat croydon 07 Feb 14 9.43am
Quote Mapletree at 07 Feb 2014 9.39am Quote npn at 07 Feb 2014 9.35am Have any of these people actually bothered to ask any gay players / ex players? All these "they don't come out because..." assumptions without actually bothering to ask the people who know. Maybe, just maybe, they don't come out over their sexual preferences because it's nobody else's fking business?** It would look like Britain's only openly gay player gets abused more because of his height than his sexuality - let's start a 'kick heightophobia out of football' campaign [Link] You seem to answer your own question here npn. Apparently they haven't actually bothered to ask the people affected. How do you know this? They couldn't find any of them. The buggers (pun) wont wear little pink badges so we cant see who they are..... Clinton is Clinton. I have known him for a long time, I know his mother... Simon Jordan
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croydon 07 Feb 14 9.43am

Quote Mapletree at 07 Feb 2014 9.39am

Quote npn at 07 Feb 2014 9.35am

It would look like Britain's only openly gay player gets abused more because of his height than his sexuality - let's start a 'kick heightophobia out of football' campaign

[Link]

You seem to answer your own question here npn. Apparently they haven't actually bothered to ask the people affected. How do you know this?

They couldn't find any of them. The buggers (pun) wont wear little pink badges so we cant see who they are.....

Clinton is Clinton. I have known him for a long time, I know his mother... Simon Jordan

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Mapletree Croydon 07 Feb 14 9.45am
Quote SE9 EAGLE at 07 Feb 2014 9.09am Quote Mapletree at 07 Feb 2014 8.13am Quote SE9 EAGLE at 07 Feb 2014 7.13am Quote Mapletree at 06 Feb 2014 8.32pm Quote Cucking Funt at 06 Feb 2014 8.08pm Quote The Sash at 06 Feb 2014 7.59pm Quote Cucking Funt at 06 Feb 2014 7.52pm Self-righteous frothing and spluttering is always a joy to witness. We are into page 4 and still no tangibility to how gay people are discriminated against at football and by whom and even if they are what the f*** anyone's supposed to do about it. Its just another ill thought out knee jerk 'right on' campaign to a prejudice that isn't seemingly there or if it is it certainly unwarranted. What are these 11 clubs actually going to be doing ???? Edited by The Sash (06 Feb 2014 8.00pm) Still waiting for someone to clarify how anyone's rights are being denied and/or anyone is being in some way discriminated against to such a degree that this sort of campaign becomes necessary. Quite right. No such thing as indirect discrimination which was merely created to give employment lawyers work to do. Can anyone remind me how many 'out' gay footballers there are again please. There are at least 4,000 professional footballers in the UK so 1.5% of that is 60 gay (excluding bisexual) footballers. Edited by Mapletree (06 Feb 2014 8.32pm) So what? Oh for goodness sake. There is a small group of gay men in professional football that have not come out. People wonder why they haven't come out and suspect it is due to deep rooted anti-gay sentiment. Well no sht Sherlock, you just have to read HOL. It's not a big issue but it is indicative of a wider issue of intolerance. A few people decide to try to do something about it, presumably a mix of straight and gay people. Everyone gets fired up saying it's not needed, will rock the boat too much, blah blah. The inherent conservatism on this site is mind-boggling and sadly I assume reflects the broader football supporting family. And I would have thought that - living where we do and drawing supporters from a reasonably tolerant and educated pool - we can't be the worst. People even have a pop at the HF, one of the few unique things we have going for us. I bldy wish people would stop moaning and try to actually be 'do-gooders'. Why is that a pejorative label? Stop sitting on your ase carping and find something to improve. This particular initiative will probably get nowhere but just maybe will be part of a bigger build up of pressure to change attitudes and open eyes. As you mention the HF why not pop into B block on Saturday and see if they want to join your crusade.Maybe encourage one or two to come out of the closet? a) I didn't say that the HF would support any campaign. I said some people will knock anything and anybody without having the get up and go to instead build something. b) You seem to think the HF is a unitary body, it ain't. There are plenty of people with plenty of opinions within the HF c) There will be people posting on this site who are in the HF. Hopefully they at least understand that campaigning makes change, even if this isn't a campaign they care about Stop knocking people and do some good instead. I am so fed up with all the whingeing, whining negativity from a very small but vocal group on this site.
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Croydon 07 Feb 14 9.45am

Quote SE9 EAGLE at 07 Feb 2014 9.09am

Quote Mapletree at 07 Feb 2014 8.13am

Quote SE9 EAGLE at 07 Feb 2014 7.13am

Quote Mapletree at 06 Feb 2014 8.32pm

Quote Cucking Funt at 06 Feb 2014 8.08pm

Quote The Sash at 06 Feb 2014 7.59pm

Quote Cucking Funt at 06 Feb 2014 7.52pm

Self-righteous frothing and spluttering is always a joy to witness.

We are into page 4 and still no tangibility to how gay people are discriminated against at football and by whom and even if they are what the f*** anyone's supposed to do about it.

Its just another ill thought out knee jerk 'right on' campaign to a prejudice that isn't seemingly there or if it is it certainly unwarranted.

What are these 11 clubs actually going to be doing ????

Edited by The Sash (06 Feb 2014 8.00pm)

Still waiting for someone to clarify how anyone's rights are being denied and/or anyone is being in some way discriminated against to such a degree that this sort of campaign becomes necessary.

Quite right. No such thing as indirect discrimination which was merely created to give employment lawyers work to do.

Can anyone remind me how many 'out' gay footballers there are again please. There are at least 4,000 professional footballers in the UK so 1.5% of that is 60 gay (excluding bisexual) footballers.

Edited by Mapletree (06 Feb 2014 8.32pm)

So what?

It's not a big issue but it is indicative of a wider issue of intolerance.

A few people decide to try to do something about it, presumably a mix of straight and gay people. Everyone gets fired up saying it's not needed, will rock the boat too much, blah blah.

People even have a pop at the HF, one of the few unique things we have going for us.

I bl**dy wish people would stop moaning and try to actually be 'do-gooders'. Why is that a pejorative label? Stop sitting on your a*se carping and find something to improve.

This particular initiative will probably get nowhere but just maybe will be part of a bigger build up of pressure to change attitudes and open eyes.

As you mention the HF why not pop into B block on Saturday and see if they want to join your crusade.Maybe encourage one or two to come out of the closet?

a) I didn't say that the HF would support any campaign. I said some people will knock anything and anybody without having the get up and go to instead build something.

b) You seem to think the HF is a unitary body, it ain't. There are plenty of people with plenty of opinions within the HF

c) There will be people posting on this site who are in the HF. Hopefully they at least understand that campaigning makes change, even if this isn't a campaign they care about

Stop knocking people and do some good instead. I am so fed up with all the whingeing, whining negativity from a very small but vocal group on this site.

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paperhat croydon 07 Feb 14 9.47am
Quote Mapletree at 07 Feb 2014 9.45am Quote SE9 EAGLE at 07 Feb 2014 9.09am Quote Mapletree at 07 Feb 2014 8.13am Quote SE9 EAGLE at 07 Feb 2014 7.13am Quote Mapletree at 06 Feb 2014 8.32pm Quote Cucking Funt at 06 Feb 2014 8.08pm Quote The Sash at 06 Feb 2014 7.59pm Quote Cucking Funt at 06 Feb 2014 7.52pm Self-righteous frothing and spluttering is always a joy to witness. We are into page 4 and still no tangibility to how gay people are discriminated against at football and by whom and even if they are what the f*** anyone's supposed to do about it. Its just another ill thought out knee jerk 'right on' campaign to a prejudice that isn't seemingly there or if it is it certainly unwarranted. What are these 11 clubs actually going to be doing ???? Edited by The Sash (06 Feb 2014 8.00pm) Still waiting for someone to clarify how anyone's rights are being denied and/or anyone is being in some way discriminated against to such a degree that this sort of campaign becomes necessary. Quite right. No such thing as indirect discrimination which was merely created to give employment lawyers work to do. Can anyone remind me how many 'out' gay footballers there are again please. There are at least 4,000 professional footballers in the UK so 1.5% of that is 60 gay (excluding bisexual) footballers. Edited by Mapletree (06 Feb 2014 8.32pm) So what? Oh for goodness sake. There is a small group of gay men in professional football that have not come out. People wonder why they haven't come out and suspect it is due to deep rooted anti-gay sentiment. Well no sht Sherlock, you just have to read HOL. It's not a big issue but it is indicative of a wider issue of intolerance. A few people decide to try to do something about it, presumably a mix of straight and gay people. Everyone gets fired up saying it's not needed, will rock the boat too much, blah blah. The inherent conservatism on this site is mind-boggling and sadly I assume reflects the broader football supporting family. And I would have thought that - living where we do and drawing supporters from a reasonably tolerant and educated pool - we can't be the worst. People even have a pop at the HF, one of the few unique things we have going for us. I bldy wish people would stop moaning and try to actually be 'do-gooders'. Why is that a pejorative label? Stop sitting on your ase carping and find something to improve. This particular initiative will probably get nowhere but just maybe will be part of a bigger build up of pressure to change attitudes and open eyes. As you mention the HF why not pop into B block on Saturday and see if they want to join your crusade.Maybe encourage one or two to come out of the closet? a) I didn't say that the HF would support any campaign. I said some people will knock anything and anybody without having the get up and go to instead build something. b) You seem to think the HF is a unitary body, it ain't. There are plenty of people with plenty of opinions within the HF c) There will be people posting on this site who are in the HF. Hopefully they at least understand that campaigning makes change, even if this isn't a campaign they care about Stop knocking people and do some good instead. I am so fed up with all the whingeing, whining negativity from a very small but vocal group on this site. Start a campaign? Edited by paperhat (07 Feb 2014 9.48am) Clinton is Clinton. I have known him for a long time, I know his mother... Simon Jordan
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Quote Mapletree at 07 Feb 2014 9.45am