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Master Coin 31 Dec 13 4.00pm
This post has been merged from a topic called 'Should we take the gamble?' by Moose Quote Gyro1780 at 31 Dec 2013 3.13pm Quote Master Coin at 31 Dec 2013 2.54pm Think the striker I'd gamble on is the fella who outscored Rhodes in the Championship last season - namely Glenn Murray. Pretty sure he'd cost a lot less too. Do you really think that after Murray's long injury he's going to return & start banging the goals in? I don't. If he doesn't return until February i can't see him being anymore than a sub coming on with 15-20 mins to go. The last thing we want to do is rush him back & he get's injured again. We need to sign someone who's going to get us goals now. Edited by Gyro1780 (31 Dec 2013 3.14pm) It probably will take him a little while to settle back in, but there's no guarantee that somebody like Rhodes would settle in the PL straight away either. I personally would go with Murray purely because we have so many holes in the team that I think that £10m would be better spent elsewhere and that we can muster along with Chamakh/Gayle/Jerome for a few more months whereas we cannot keep playing Ward in midfield / weakening our defence.
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Quote Master Coin at 31 Dec 2013 2.54pm

Think the striker I'd gamble on is the fella who outscored Rhodes in the Championship last season - namely Glenn Murray.

Pretty sure he'd cost a lot less too.

Do you really think that after Murray's long injury he's going to return & start banging the goals in? I don't. If he doesn't return until February i can't see him being anymore than a sub coming on with 15-20 mins to go. The last thing we want to do is rush him back & he get's injured again.
We need to sign someone who's going to get us goals now.

Edited by Gyro1780 (31 Dec 2013 3.14pm)

It probably will take him a little while to settle back in, but there's no guarantee that somebody like Rhodes would settle in the PL straight away either. I personally would go with Murray purely because we have so many holes in the team that I think that £10m would be better spent elsewhere and that we can muster along with Chamakh/Gayle/Jerome for a few more months whereas we cannot keep playing Ward in midfield / weakening our defence.

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Ljb Sutton 31 Dec 13 4.12pm
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WelshEagle London 31 Dec 13 4.13pm
This post has been merged from a topic called 'Should we take the gamble?' by Moose Quote Master Coin at 31 Dec 2013 4.00pm Quote Gyro1780 at 31 Dec 2013 3.13pm Quote Master Coin at 31 Dec 2013 2.54pm Think the striker I'd gamble on is the fella who outscored Rhodes in the Championship last season - namely Glenn Murray. Pretty sure he'd cost a lot less too. Do you really think that after Murray's long injury he's going to return & start banging the goals in? I don't. If he doesn't return until February i can't see him being anymore than a sub coming on with 15-20 mins to go. The last thing we want to do is rush him back & he get's injured again. We need to sign someone who's going to get us goals now. Edited by Gyro1780 (31 Dec 2013 3.14pm) It probably will take him a little while to settle back in, but there's no guarantee that somebody like Rhodes would settle in the PL straight away either. I personally would go with Murray purely because we have so many holes in the team that I think that £10m would be better spent elsewhere and that we can muster along with Chamakh/Gayle/Jerome for a few more months whereas we cannot keep playing Ward in midfield / weakening our defence. I think Murray is prem class (for what it's worth). However, he won't be match fit for sometime and will need games to get up to speed. Not sure we can allow him that luxury. Having said that, he'd make my squad - but I do think we need another goal scorer. It's probably not our top priority though. I think we'd benefit hugely from a proven creative, goal scoring midfielder.
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Quote Master Coin at 31 Dec 2013 4.00pm

Quote Gyro1780 at 31 Dec 2013 3.13pm

Quote Master Coin at 31 Dec 2013 2.54pm

Think the striker I'd gamble on is the fella who outscored Rhodes in the Championship last season - namely Glenn Murray.

Pretty sure he'd cost a lot less too.

Edited by Gyro1780 (31 Dec 2013 3.14pm)

I think Murray is prem class (for what it's worth). However, he won't be match fit for sometime and will need games to get up to speed. Not sure we can allow him that luxury. Having said that, he'd make my squad - but I do think we need another goal scorer.

It's probably not our top priority though. I think we'd benefit hugely from a proven creative, goal scoring midfielder.

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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 31 Dec 13 4.21pm
This post has been merged from a topic called 'Should we take the gamble?' by Moose You can forget about us spending £10 Million on one player !
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South coast - west of Brighton. 31 Dec 13 4.21pm

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You can forget about us spending £10 Million on one player !

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radsyrendot From Coventry now in Leicester 31 Dec 13 4.26pm
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From Coventry now in Leicester 31 Dec 13 4.26pm

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we should take a punt on him maybe a deal involving gayle going there

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Booted Eagle Bristol 31 Dec 13 4.44pm
This post has been merged from a topic called 'Should we take the gamble?' by Moose Quote est1905 at 31 Dec 2013 3.21pm Quote Booted Eagle at 31 Dec 2013 10.50am Quote WelshEagle at 31 Dec 2013 9.46am I tend to agree. I think this chap could keep us up. I think it's worth an £8m bid. As you say, it's an investment. We also need a goal scoring midfielder. Him and Ledley and we'd be looking good IMO. Blackburn bought him for about this amount. We would have to bid far higher and I see an all mighty scrap for his signature with other teams at the bottom end of the EPL. Have to be careful that we don't end up chasing rainbows like the summer, leaving our business last gasp which may well happen with Rhodes and then clutching at straws at the death when the deal falls through. Rubbish for two reasons. 1. Everyone laughed at Blackburn for paying that kind of money for a league 1 (at the time) player. He was way way over priced at £8m 2. Blackburn have tried hard to hide the fact but they are in desperate financial trouble and losing approx £1m a month. At the moment Venkys are propping the club up financially but cannot continue this for long and they know it. They need the money, big time. This is why it is unlikely Blackburn will get back what they paid for him. They've tried to play the reluctant vendor but everyone (that's interested) knows its a buyers market. It's only an educated guess but I believe £5m with add ons will clinch him. Problem is there are other clubs that are interested which won't drive the price up by much but decreases our chances of signing him when you consider the wages we can offer. TP has already stated that he is too expensive for the club, although he is looking at 2 strikers, with FFS as well to return. Judging by the small amount of quality strikers available and the number of teams struggling at the foot of the Prem due to lack of firepower presently I would say near to £10 million at the end of the transfer window more likely. Know your limits, stick in a bid at that level and if rejected move on. If we are to pull a rabbit out of the hat in Jan, Rhodes will not be it. “ [T]here are known knowns; there are things we know that we know.There are known unknowns; that is to say there are things that, we now know we don't know.But there are also unknown unknowns – there are things we do not know we don't know. ” —United States Secretary of Defense, Donald Rumsfeld
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I tend to agree. I think this chap could keep us up. I think it's worth an £8m bid. As you say, it's an investment.

We also need a goal scoring midfielder. Him and Ledley and we'd be looking good IMO.

Blackburn bought him for about this amount. We would have to bid far higher and I see an all mighty scrap for his signature with other teams at the bottom end of the EPL. Have to be careful that we don't end up chasing rainbows like the summer, leaving our business last gasp which may well happen with Rhodes and then clutching at straws at the death when the deal falls through.

Rubbish for two reasons.
1. Everyone laughed at Blackburn for paying that kind of money for a league 1 (at the time) player. He was way way over priced at £8m
2. Blackburn have tried hard to hide the fact but they are in desperate financial trouble and losing approx £1m a month. At the moment Venkys are propping the club up financially but cannot continue this for long and they know it. They need the money, big time.
This is why it is unlikely Blackburn will get back what they paid for him. They've tried to play the reluctant vendor but everyone (that's interested) knows its a buyers market.
It's only an educated guess but I believe £5m with add ons will clinch him. Problem is there are other clubs that are interested which won't drive the price up by much but decreases our chances of signing him when you consider the wages we can offer.

TP has already stated that he is too expensive for the club, although he is looking at 2 strikers, with FFS as well to return. Judging by the small amount of quality strikers available and the number of teams struggling at the foot of the Prem due to lack of firepower presently I would say near to £10 million at the end of the transfer window more likely. Know your limits, stick in a bid at that level and if rejected move on. If we are to pull a rabbit out of the hat in Jan, Rhodes will not be it.

“ [T]here are known knowns; there are things we know that we know.There are known unknowns; that is to say there are things that, we now know we don't know.But there are also unknown unknowns – there are things we do not know we don't know. ”
—United States Secretary of Defense, Donald Rumsfeld

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Eagles-Mad Romford Essex 31 Dec 13 6.19pm
This post has been merged from a topic called 'Should we take the gamble?' by Moose Quote Booted Eagle at 31 Dec 2013 4.44pm Quote est1905 at 31 Dec 2013 3.21pm Quote Booted Eagle at 31 Dec 2013 10.50am Quote WelshEagle at 31 Dec 2013 9.46am I tend to agree. I think this chap could keep us up. I think it's worth an £8m bid. As you say, it's an investment. We also need a goal scoring midfielder. Him and Ledley and we'd be looking good IMO. Blackburn bought him for about this amount. We would have to bid far higher and I see an all mighty scrap for his signature with other teams at the bottom end of the EPL. Have to be careful that we don't end up chasing rainbows like the summer, leaving our business last gasp which may well happen with Rhodes and then clutching at straws at the death when the deal falls through. Rubbish for two reasons. 1. Everyone laughed at Blackburn for paying that kind of money for a league 1 (at the time) player. He was way way over priced at £8m 2. Blackburn have tried hard to hide the fact but they are in desperate financial trouble and losing approx £1m a month. At the moment Venkys are propping the club up financially but cannot continue this for long and they know it. They need the money, big time. This is why it is unlikely Blackburn will get back what they paid for him. They've tried to play the reluctant vendor but everyone (that's interested) knows its a buyers market. It's only an educated guess but I believe £5m with add ons will clinch him. Problem is there are other clubs that are interested which won't drive the price up by much but decreases our chances of signing him when you consider the wages we can offer. TP has already stated that he is too expensive for the club, although he is looking at 2 strikers, with FFS as well to return. Judging by the small amount of quality strikers available and the number of teams struggling at the foot of the Prem due to lack of firepower presently I would say near to £10 million at the end of the transfer window more likely. Know your limits, stick in a bid at that level and if rejected move on. If we are to pull a rabbit out of the hat in Jan, Rhodes will not be it. Bare in mind he said he was to expensive before he reached the 14 point Milestone to actually spend money. We may full well be on 19 points tomorrow so I reckon Pulis will have some money to spend. I personally think Pulis wont go for Rhodes he will look at someone fast and powerful upfront to partner Chamakh, Maybe Deeney or McCormack. I think basically Pulis wants a Jerome who can score. Someone to bully and harass defenders allowing Chamakh to work his magic and chipping in with a few goals themselves. I reckon we will look at a goal scoring midfielder to because bar Bannan and Puncheon the others dont seem to be a goal threat. Joe Ledley or steven Nzonzi please Tony.
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Quote WelshEagle at 31 Dec 2013 9.46am

I tend to agree. I think this chap could keep us up. I think it's worth an £8m bid. As you say, it's an investment.

We also need a goal scoring midfielder. Him and Ledley and we'd be looking good IMO.

Bare in mind he said he was to expensive before he reached the 14 point Milestone to actually spend money. We may full well be on 19 points tomorrow so I reckon Pulis will have some money to spend. I personally think Pulis wont go for Rhodes he will look at someone fast and powerful upfront to partner Chamakh, Maybe Deeney or McCormack. I think basically Pulis wants a Jerome who can score. Someone to bully and harass defenders allowing Chamakh to work his magic and chipping in with a few goals themselves. I reckon we will look at a goal scoring midfielder to because bar Bannan and Puncheon the others dont seem to be a goal threat. Joe Ledley or steven Nzonzi please Tony.

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james03 Bangkok 01 Jan 14 3.43am
This post has been merged from a topic called 'Should we take the gamble?' by Moose Please STOP going on about Murray. He has apparently had a slight set back in his recovery programme anyway. He will not likely be fit until sometime in March therefore would you put him in the squad, taking up one valuable place, for a return of only a handful of games - assuming no further setbacks in his recovery. Leave him to recover fully and then, hopefully, be fully fit for 2014/15 season. Remember Paddy McCarthy was put in the squad and has not been heard of since due to not recovering from his injury even now. The secret of life is honesty and fair dealing. If you can fake that, you've got it made. Groucho Marx
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Please STOP going on about Murray. He has apparently had a slight set back in his recovery programme anyway. He will not likely be fit until sometime in March therefore would you put him in the squad, taking up one valuable place, for a return of only a handful of games - assuming no further setbacks in his recovery. Leave him to recover fully and then, hopefully, be fully fit for 2014/15 season.

Remember Paddy McCarthy was put in the squad and has not been heard of since due to not recovering from his injury even now.

The secret of life is honesty and fair dealing. If you can fake that, you've got it made. Groucho Marx

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Midlands Eagle 01 Jan 14 7.41am
This post has been merged from a topic called 'Should we take the gamble?' by Moose Quote Eagles-Mad at 31 Dec 2013 6.19pm I reckon we will look at a goal scoring midfielder to because bar Bannan and Puncheon the others dont seem to be a goal threat. Joe Ledley or steven Nzonzi please Tony. We may well have someone suitable in Guedioura who was shaping up nicely but he was injured before Pulis arrived so he won't have seen him play
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I reckon we will look at a goal scoring midfielder to because bar Bannan and Puncheon the others dont seem to be a goal threat. Joe Ledley or steven Nzonzi please Tony.

We may well have someone suitable in Guedioura who was shaping up nicely but he was injured before Pulis arrived so he won't have seen him play

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Petereagle Brockley 01 Jan 14 10.28am
This post has been merged from a topic called 'Should we take the gamble?' by Moose Quote Ian J at 01 Jan 2014 7.41am Quote Eagles-Mad at 31 Dec 2013 6.19pm I reckon we will look at a goal scoring midfielder to because bar Bannan and Puncheon the others dont seem to be a goal threat. Joe Ledley or steven Nzonzi please Tony. We may well have someone suitable in Guedioura who was shaping up nicely but he was injured before Pulis arrived so he won't have seen him play Guidieura what fit plus Ledley would cover that position nicely
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Quote Eagles-Mad at 31 Dec 2013 6.19pm

I reckon we will look at a goal scoring midfielder to because bar Bannan and Puncheon the others dont seem to be a goal threat. Joe Ledley or steven Nzonzi please Tony.

We may well have someone suitable in Guedioura who was shaping up nicely but he was injured before Pulis arrived so he won't have seen him play

Guidieura what fit plus Ledley would cover that position nicely

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Ljb Sutton 04 Jan 14 1.01pm
Blackburn bought Gestede as a striking option from Cardiff, could be a sign that Rhodes will be moving on, though probably wont be to us
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Blackburn bought Gestede as a striking option from Cardiff, could be a sign that Rhodes will be moving on, though probably wont be to us

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boilerboy st neots 04 Jan 14 1.35pm
We've got plenty of players we can use in part exchange. How about £5-6 million plus Gayle for Rhodes. Everyone's a winner.
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st neots 04 Jan 14 1.35pm

We've got plenty of players we can use in part exchange. How about £5-6 million plus Gayle for Rhodes. Everyone's a winner.

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