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eritheagle Erith 15 Aug 24 4.52pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger Anyone with a brain knows that most organised crime is committed by foreign gangs. Most violent street crime is committed those of migrant origin. Studies are done by liberal White people who don't live in the real world. The identity of perpetrators is being deliberately hidden within statistics to avoid the reality. What else would you expect? You only have to use your eyes to see what is going on. Studies in Sweden and Denmark where they collected the data and statistics on crime definitely backed up what you wrote, and as you say, most people who aren't naive know this to be true. This resulted in both countries tightening up their borders and lowering the numbers coming into their countries. In the case of Sweden they were known for their low crime levels but now they have a massive gun problem in Stockholm due to muslim drug gangs. I read about it in a crime magazine (just in case Keir Stalin reads this!)
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Erith 15 Aug 24 4.52pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Anyone with a brain knows that most organised crime is committed by foreign gangs.

Most violent street crime is committed those of migrant origin.

Studies are done by liberal White people who don't live in the real world.
The identity of perpetrators is being deliberately hidden within statistics to avoid the reality.

What else would you expect?

You only have to use your eyes to see what is going on.

Studies in Sweden and Denmark where they collected the data and statistics on crime definitely backed up what you wrote, and as you say, most people who aren't naive know this to be true.

This resulted in both countries tightening up their borders and lowering the numbers coming into their countries.

In the case of Sweden they were known for their low crime levels but now they have a massive gun problem in Stockholm due to muslim drug gangs. I read about it in a crime magazine (just in case Keir Stalin reads this!)

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Forest Hillbilly in a hidey-hole 15 Aug 24 5.16pm
Originally posted by Rudi Hedman Or the muggings etc that don’t get investigated. Just a crime number. A lot of violent crime doesn’t even get reported in London because what’s the point? The fact that immigration adds to crime significantly and the feeling of being unsafe is enough to reduce it immediately, despite what some random person types on Wikipedia or some liberal do gooder tries to spin on some website. Even he says longer term immigration needs to be reduced in his conclusion. We’re now in the longer term seeing how long this has been going on without any mandate to do so. Incidentally Oxford university’s own migration watch claims 52% of the population want immigration slowed, but no, on we go increasing it while taking risks due to lack of information on immigrants and no coherent plan for infrastructure, let alone house building. We can’t even build enough properties for our own, let alone 3/4 of a million immigrants. What a disgrace. There are so many idiots in this country we’re beyond help. I would say we deserve everything we get but people with sense don’t deserve this. Edited by Rudi Hedman (15 Aug 2024 4.39pm) Maybe tomorrow, there'll be a simpler "like" button ^^^^^ I disengage, I turn the page.
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

Or the muggings etc that don’t get investigated. Just a crime number. A lot of violent crime doesn’t even get reported in London because what’s the point? The fact that immigration adds to crime significantly and the feeling of being unsafe is enough to reduce it immediately, despite what some random person types on Wikipedia or some liberal do gooder tries to spin on some website. Even he says longer term immigration needs to be reduced in his conclusion. We’re now in the longer term seeing how long this has been going on without any mandate to do so. Incidentally Oxford university’s own migration watch claims 52% of the population want immigration slowed, but no, on we go increasing it while taking risks due to lack of information on immigrants and no coherent plan for infrastructure, let alone house building. We can’t even build enough properties for our own, let alone 3/4 of a million immigrants. What a disgrace.

There are so many idiots in this country we’re beyond help. I would say we deserve everything we get but people with sense don’t deserve this.

Edited by Rudi Hedman (15 Aug 2024 4.39pm)

Maybe tomorrow, there'll be a simpler "like" button ^^^^^

I disengage, I turn the page.

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cryrst The garden of England 15 Aug 24 5.53pm
Originally posted by Rudi Hedman Or the muggings etc that don’t get investigated. Just a crime number. A lot of violent crime doesn’t even get reported in London because what’s the point? The fact that immigration adds to crime significantly and the feeling of being unsafe is enough to reduce it immediately, despite what some random person types on Wikipedia or some liberal do gooder tries to spin on some website. Even he says longer term immigration needs to be reduced in his conclusion. We’re now in the longer term seeing how long this has been going on without any mandate to do so. Incidentally Oxford university’s own migration watch claims 52% of the population want immigration slowed, but no, on we go increasing it while taking risks due to lack of information on immigrants and no coherent plan for infrastructure, let alone house building. We can’t even build enough properties for our own, let alone 3/4 of a million immigrants. What a disgrace. There are so many idiots in this country we’re beyond help. I would say we deserve everything we get but people with sense don’t deserve this. Edited by Rudi Hedman (15 Aug 2024 4.39pm) It’s the 52% a certain poster doesn’t agree with. Where have I seen that before …
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The garden of England 15 Aug 24 5.53pm

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

There are so many idiots in this country we’re beyond help. I would say we deserve everything we get but people with sense don’t deserve this.

Edited by Rudi Hedman (15 Aug 2024 4.39pm)

It’s the 52% a certain poster doesn’t agree with. Where have I seen that before …

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Rudi Hedman Caterham 15 Aug 24 6.28pm
[Link] This is why I don’t believe conviction figures. The police might be capable of stopping the odd very young adult or boy and searching him but they’re very incapable of getting control of gang crime or when crime happens in groups. It’s those who offend regularly where the volume of crime is. We had a resident former policeman on here who was responsible for gang crime in Croydon and even he said there were problems with him being able to do his job. I think he posted about these problems after another poster’s son was beaten up by a Somali gang wearing bandannas for being at a MacDonalds near East Croydon station. COYP
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This is why I don’t believe conviction figures. The police might be capable of stopping the odd very young adult or boy and searching him but they’re very incapable of getting control of gang crime or when crime happens in groups. It’s those who offend regularly where the volume of crime is.

We had a resident former policeman on here who was responsible for gang crime in Croydon and even he said there were problems with him being able to do his job. I think he posted about these problems after another poster’s son was beaten up by a Somali gang wearing bandannas for being at a MacDonalds near East Croydon station.

COYP

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Rudi Hedman Caterham 15 Aug 24 7.14pm
[Link] Jesus COYP
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[Link] Jesus

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Spiderman Horsham 15 Aug 24 7.46pm
Originally posted by Rudi Hedman [Link] Feel familiar? Any responses? Unbelievable, or is there a logical acceptable explanation ( of course there will be)
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

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Feel familiar?

Any responses? Unbelievable, or is there a logical acceptable explanation ( of course there will be)

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 15 Aug 24 10.50pm
Originally posted by cryrst Of course it fits if you just look at numbers but if you offset those with a pro rata element of population then that will be wrong. It is a lie but a forgivable one because it suits the god like MSM and their followers. It isn’t. It’s just a lie. Multiple studies have shown no overall correlation between crime rates and immigration. You can find individual areas where the statistics can be presented to make it appear differently but you can do the same for just about any pet assertion. Looked at objectively and in the round it isn’t true. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Truro Cornwall 15 Aug 24 10.50pm

Originally posted by cryrst

Of course it fits if you just look at numbers but if you offset those with a pro rata element of population then that will be wrong. It is a lie but a forgivable one because it suits the god like MSM and their followers.

It isn’t. It’s just a lie. Multiple studies have shown no overall correlation between crime rates and immigration. You can find individual areas where the statistics can be presented to make it appear differently but you can do the same for just about any pet assertion. Looked at objectively and in the round it isn’t true.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 15 Aug 24 11.07pm
Originally posted by georgenorman What evidence do you have that she was 'primed' to do or say anything and who were the 'primers'. She was not banned from physically being in the vicinity that she was in, she was prohibited from protesting. She was silently standing still. She was arrested when she said she might be praying to herself. Charges were later dropped as the police knew full well that the courts would throw out the case as a court had in a previous hearing. A clearer example of someone being arrested for their thoughts and opinions is hard to imagine. At least you now accept that all of this is just in your imagination! I refuse to see this thread diverted, as other have, onto the issue of a well known anti abortion actIvist, backed by the even better known US based “ADF international “ who make it their mission to disrupt the work of abortion advice centres. She, on their advice, carefully crafted to try to avoid UK law, was primed to act as she did. It was a publicity stunt. You fell for it and now imagine it is genuine. How sad. Now we may have to spend time and money on updating the law to stop people like her. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Truro Cornwall 15 Aug 24 11.07pm

Originally posted by georgenorman

What evidence do you have that she was 'primed' to do or say anything and who were the 'primers'.

She was not banned from physically being in the vicinity that she was in, she was prohibited from protesting. She was silently standing still. She was arrested when she said she might be praying to herself. Charges were later dropped as the police knew full well that the courts would throw out the case as a court had in a previous hearing.

A clearer example of someone being arrested for their thoughts and opinions is hard to imagine.

At least you now accept that all of this is just in your imagination!

I refuse to see this thread diverted, as other have, onto the issue of a well known anti abortion actIvist, backed by the even better known US based “ADF international “ who make it their mission to disrupt the work of abortion advice centres. She, on their advice, carefully crafted to try to avoid UK law, was primed to act as she did.

It was a publicity stunt. You fell for it and now imagine it is genuine. How sad. Now we may have to spend time and money on updating the law to stop people like her.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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Stirlingsays 15 Aug 24 11.10pm
I deleted this response because answering these claims...which isn't hard and has been done ad nauseam, just diverts too far from this terrible tragedy and should at least have some connection to it....the protests and riots afterwards have a direct connection....however, discussing immigrant crime rates just seems further steps away. Perfectly valid discussions to have, just better in other threads. Edited by Stirlingsays (15 Aug 2024 11.16pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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15 Aug 24 11.10pm

I deleted this response because answering these claims...which isn't hard and has been done ad nauseam, just diverts too far from this terrible tragedy and should at least have some connection to it....the protests and riots afterwards have a direct connection....however, discussing immigrant crime rates just seems further steps away.

Perfectly valid discussions to have, just better in other threads.

Edited by Stirlingsays (15 Aug 2024 11.16pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 15 Aug 24 11.18pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger Anyone with a brain knows that most organised crime is committed by foreign gangs. Most violent street crime is committed those of migrant origin. Studies are done by liberal White people who don't live in the real world. The identity of perpetrators is being deliberately hidden within statistics to avoid the reality. What else would you expect? You only have to use your eyes to see what is going on. Constantly repeating a lie in the face of statistics which prove it isn’t true is a well practiced technique of a certain US ex President. Know a person by the company he keeps! Studies are done by professionals who know what they are doing. What their politics or skin colour is hardly relevant. Fact free assertions are made by people with an agenda based on prejudice. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Truro Cornwall 15 Aug 24 11.18pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Anyone with a brain knows that most organised crime is committed by foreign gangs.

Most violent street crime is committed those of migrant origin.

Studies are done by liberal White people who don't live in the real world.
The identity of perpetrators is being deliberately hidden within statistics to avoid the reality.

What else would you expect?

You only have to use your eyes to see what is going on.

Constantly repeating a lie in the face of statistics which prove it isn’t true is a well practiced technique of a certain US ex President.

Know a person by the company he keeps!

Studies are done by professionals who know what they are doing. What their politics or skin colour is hardly relevant.

Fact free assertions are made by people with an agenda based on prejudice.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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cryrst The garden of England 16 Aug 24 2.27am
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle Constantly repeating a lie in the face of statistics which prove it isn’t true is a well practiced technique of a certain US ex President. Know a person by the company he keeps! Studies are done by professionals who know what they are doing. What their politics or skin colour is hardly relevant. Fact free assertions are made by people with an agenda based on prejudice. Are these the same trained professionals who ignored the grooming gang evidence all those years ago, so that it didn’t upset certain communities. Accusing the actual victims and families of being racist. You know the ones the evidence was presented about. If so then I have a sneaky suspicion they may speak with forked tongue
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The garden of England 16 Aug 24 2.27am

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Constantly repeating a lie in the face of statistics which prove it isn’t true is a well practiced technique of a certain US ex President.

Know a person by the company he keeps!

Studies are done by professionals who know what they are doing. What their politics or skin colour is hardly relevant.

Fact free assertions are made by people with an agenda based on prejudice.

Are these the same trained professionals who ignored the grooming gang evidence all those years ago, so that it didn’t upset certain communities. Accusing the actual victims and families of being racist. You know the ones the evidence was presented about. If so then I have a sneaky suspicion they may speak with forked tongue

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georgenorman 16 Aug 24 8.24am
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle At least you now accept that all of this is just in your imagination! I refuse to see this thread diverted, as other have, onto the issue of a well known anti abortion actIvist, backed by the even better known US based “ADF international “ who make it their mission to disrupt the work of abortion advice centres. She, on their advice, carefully crafted to try to avoid UK law, was primed to act as she did. It was a publicity stunt. You fell for it and now imagine it is genuine. How sad. Now we may have to spend time and money on updating the law to stop people like her. Where have I accepted that all of this is in my imagination – perhaps you are hallucinating? She might have been well known to those who cheer on and celebrate the little controlled termination of nascent life, the overwhelming majority would not have heard of her before her wrongful arrests. Again, what evidence do you have that she was primed by the supposed “ADF” or any other group that oppose the pervasive termination of nascent life? At least you now accept that she broke no laws and that all of this is just in your imagination. What are your proposals in making the law even more severe than arresting someone for standing still in a public place, perhaps silently praying to themselves – will you have people arrested for merely existing? What will their crime be, ‘enemy of the people’ or ‘counter-revolutionary’ perhaps? Edited by georgenorman (16 Aug 2024 8.28am)
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16 Aug 24 8.24am

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

At least you now accept that all of this is just in your imagination!

It was a publicity stunt. You fell for it and now imagine it is genuine. How sad. Now we may have to spend time and money on updating the law to stop people like her.

Where have I accepted that all of this is in my imagination – perhaps you are hallucinating?
She might have been well known to those who cheer on and celebrate the little controlled termination of nascent life, the overwhelming majority would not have heard of her before her wrongful arrests.
Again, what evidence do you have that she was primed by the supposed “ADF” or any other group that oppose the pervasive termination of nascent life?
At least you now accept that she broke no laws and that all of this is just in your imagination.
What are your proposals in making the law even more severe than arresting someone for standing still in a public place, perhaps silently praying to themselves – will you have people arrested for merely existing? What will their crime be, ‘enemy of the people’ or ‘counter-revolutionary’ perhaps?

Edited by georgenorman (16 Aug 2024 8.28am)

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