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Penge Eagle Flag Beckenham 25 Jul 19 10.36pm Send a Private Message to Penge Eagle Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Penge Eagle as a friend

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Originally posted by Stirlingsays

It's not about being enlightened Maple.....criticisms we can make about the Israeli government aside..... It's about calling people fascists when an Israeli is the main target of most fascists.

It's inherently uneducated and misinformed.

Edited by Stirlingsays (25 Jul 2019 10.03pm)

It's the UK government and justice system who are the fascists as they want to lock up dissidents.

Remember Brexit activist James Goddard who called Remainer MP Anna Soubry a 'Nazi'? He pleaded guilty last week in order to avoid six months in prison! Yet it's perfectly fine for MP David Lammy to call the ERG Brexiteers 'Nazis' though.

And the biggest irony of them all is George Soros, who funds the anti-Brexit projects, holds no remorse about collaborating with ACTUAL Nazi Party foot-soldiers.

 

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Stirlingsays Flag 25 Jul 19 10.58pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

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Originally posted by Penge Eagle

It's the UK government and justice system who are the fascists as they want to lock up dissidents.

Remember Brexit activist James Goddard who called Remainer MP Anna Soubry a 'Nazi'? He pleaded guilty last week in order to avoid six months in prison! Yet it's perfectly fine for MP David Lammy to call the ERG Brexiteers 'Nazis' though.

And the biggest irony of them all is George Soros, who funds the anti-Brexit projects, holds no remorse about collaborating with ACTUAL Nazi Party foot-soldiers.

Yep, what's happened with Goddard is yet another example of selective persecution.....when persecution of opinions is a disgrace anyway.

Soros and his money is a major danger to the nation state of any country. He needs to be combated as forcefully as he funds the persecution of others.

However, I don't blame him for the situation he found himself in as a young teenager....not from what I heard anyway.

 


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Originally posted by ChrisGC

You, Maine and Maple are fascists. Shouting down others that don't agree with your warped, bigoted world views.

Bored again Chris?

I think you need to read the definition properly.

I have learned to enjoy the way that you SHOUT PEOPLE DOWN.

 

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Originally posted by Stirlingsays

It's not about being enlightened Maple.....criticisms we can make about the Israeli government aside..... It's about calling people fascists when an Israeli is the main target of most fascists.

It's inherently uneducated and misinformed.

Edited by Stirlingsays (25 Jul 2019 10.03pm)

I avoid the word. But it is possible to argue that the Israeli Government shows some of the classic traits.

 

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Stirlingsays Flag 26 Jul 19 2.29am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

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Originally posted by Mapletree

I avoid the word. But it is possible to argue that the Israeli Government shows some of the classic traits.

Well Israel is a state in permanent threat of war and its mindset is based upon that, but that's not fascism....well not in my view anyway....I view it as the only real democracy in the middle east.

That's because it's full of European Jews.....that European aspect and democracy isn't an accident.

Edited by Stirlingsays (26 Jul 2019 2.32am)

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 26 Jul 19 9.29am Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

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Originally posted by Penge Eagle

It's the UK government and justice system who are the fascists as they want to lock up dissidents.

Remember Brexit activist James Goddard who called Remainer MP Anna Soubry a 'Nazi'? He pleaded guilty last week in order to avoid six months in prison! Yet it's perfectly fine for MP David Lammy to call the ERG Brexiteers 'Nazis' though.

And the biggest irony of them all is George Soros, who funds the anti-Brexit projects, holds no remorse about collaborating with ACTUAL Nazi Party foot-soldiers.

Typical right wing cry baby nonsense. No-one wants to lock up "dissidents". They want to lock up criminals.

Confronting, intimidating and harassing someone in the street who is trying to go about their daily business is a criminal act. The language used is not relevant on it's own. It is only the manner in which it is used which is.

David Lammy suggested that certain aspects of the ERG's behaviour could be compared to the Nazis, and he had a point. Some might agree, others not. He did not though confront, harass or intimidate anyone.

That one of the George Soros funded "Open Society Foundations," which campaign for justice and equality across the globe, has decided to help the "Best for Britain" campaign is an entirely positive act. It attempts to balance the dubious foreign funding provided to organisations like the "Brexit" party. Soros is a great man. That he helps to take on some of the more scurrilous recent populist political movements, and their covert Russian paymasters, using his personal wealth without receiving anything in return, other than the opprobrium of the gullible, is deserving of a Nobel prize. That such people try to tarnish him with discredited stories about his very early life proves just how effective he is being.

 


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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Typical right wing cry baby nonsense. No-one wants to lock up "dissidents". They want to lock up criminals.

Confronting, intimidating and harassing someone in the street who is trying to go about their daily business is a criminal act. The language used is not relevant on it's own. It is only the manner in which it is used which is.

David Lammy suggested that certain aspects of the ERG's behaviour could be compared to the Nazis, and he had a point. Some might agree, others not. He did not though confront, harass or intimidate anyone.

That one of the George Soros funded "Open Society Foundations," which campaign for justice and equality across the globe, has decided to help the "Best for Britain" campaign is an entirely positive act. It attempts to balance the dubious foreign funding provided to organisations like the "Brexit" party. Soros is a great man. That he helps to take on some of the more scurrilous recent populist political movements, and their covert Russian paymasters, using his personal wealth without receiving anything in return, other than the opprobrium of the gullible, is deserving of a Nobel prize. That such people try to tarnish him with discredited stories about his very early life proves just how effective he is being.


Top post that Wissy.

 

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Penge Eagle Flag Beckenham 26 Jul 19 12.28pm Send a Private Message to Penge Eagle Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Penge Eagle as a friend

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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Typical right wing cry baby nonsense. No-one wants to lock up "dissidents". They want to lock up criminals.

I thought you were right wing? We'll have to agree to disagree with that one as you refuse to accept the evidence that the Robinson charges weren't trumped up as you trust the mainstream media. Both he and Goddard are political activists who are against the establishment.

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Confronting, intimidating and harassing someone in the street who is trying to go about their daily business is a criminal act. The language used is not relevant on it's own. It is only the manner in which it is used which is.

Bulls***. It's only a criminal act when the wrong person does it!

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David Lammy suggested that certain aspects of the ERG's behaviour could be compared to the Nazis, and he had a point. Some might agree, others not. He did not though confront, harass or intimidate anyone.

No you cannot compare that to the Nazis, who murdered 6 million Jews. What you say is incredibly offensive. There are many other phrases he could have chosen.

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That one of the George Soros funded "Open Society Foundations," which campaign for justice and equality across the globe, has decided to help the "Best for Britain" campaign is an entirely positive act. It attempts to balance the dubious foreign funding provided to organisations like the "Brexit" party. Soros is a great man. That he helps to take on some of the more scurrilous recent populist political movements, and their covert Russian paymasters, using his personal wealth without receiving anything in return, other than the opprobrium of the gullible, is deserving of a Nobel prize. That such people try to tarnish him with discredited stories about his very early life proves just how effective he is being.

Soros did have actual links to the Nazis. You have no evidence of "dubious" funding of the Brexit party and your Russian paymaster talk is a conspiracy theory.

Edited by Penge Eagle (26 Jul 2019 12.34pm)

 

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Penge Eagle Flag Beckenham 26 Jul 19 12.53pm Send a Private Message to Penge Eagle Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Penge Eagle as a friend

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'The government put "extreme pressure" on a school to stop lessons on LGBT relationships... after it contradicted the Islamic faith' [Link]

The government is happy to promote a set of beliefs which contradict our tolerant western values. They have no backbone and learned nothing from Rotherham. Scared of being labelled the fabricated term of Islamaphobes by the intolerant left.

Edited by Penge Eagle (26 Jul 2019 12.53pm)

 

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Bloody cheek from the BBC.
BBC News - Ofcom fines Russian news service £200,000 over impartiality
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Stirlingsays Flag 26 Jul 19 4.47pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

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Originally posted by dannyboy1978

Bloody cheek from the BBC.
BBC News - Ofcom fines Russian news service £200,000 over impartiality
[Link]

Yep, talk about irony failure.

 


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Originally posted by Penge Eagle

I thought you were right wing? We'll have to agree to disagree with that one as you refuse to accept the evidence that the Robinson charges weren't trumped up as you trust the mainstream media. Both he and Goddard are political activists who are against the establishment.

I am centre right. Neither "Robinson" or Goddard are "political activists". Both are convicted criminals.
If there is any evidence that "Robinson's" charges were "trumped up" then present them to a Court and let due process proceed. That you think they were because you are a "fan" is not evidence.

Originally posted by Penge Eagle
Bulls***. It's only a criminal act when the wrong person does it!

The bs is entirely of your own creation. It's a criminal act when someone has been found guilty by a court of breaking the law.

Originally posted by Penge Eagle

No you cannot compare that to the Nazis, who murdered 6 million Jews. What you say is incredibly offensive. There are many other phrases he could have chosen.

What he said was that some of the things that the ERG members said and did, and the way they did them, had echoes of the way that the Nazis did things. He did not make any kind of direct comparison or even hint that they were identical. With the rise of hard right wing attitudes in the USA now being mimicked in the UK we definitely need to draw such comparisons when they are appropriate. That Trump's supporters, and Trump's own style bear more resemblances is no reason to let our guard down here.

Originally posted by Penge Eagle

Soros did have actual links to the Nazis. You have no evidence of "dubious" funding of the Brexit party and your Russian paymaster talk is a conspiracy theory.

Edited by Penge Eagle (26 Jul 2019 12.34pm)

From what I recall his only "links" were via his family trying to arrange his escape. As the Electoral Commission have issued a warning and, I believe, are still investigating based on information provided by our security services I think we will find out, in due time, that it's rather more than a conspiracy theory.

 


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