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 Teddy Eagle  30 Mar 19 12.07am |
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Originally posted by Maine Eagle
Was a bit of a p*ss poor turn out though wasnt it, after a million people marched for remain. I do wonder what will happen if and when a peoples vote is held - but I dont think its good news for Leave fans. The organisers claimed two million were on the anti-war march. Didn’t make much difference did it?
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Mr Palaceman  30 Mar 19 12.08am |
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Originally posted by Maine Eagle
Was a bit of a p*ss poor turn out though wasnt it, after a million people marched for remain. I do wonder what will happen if and when a peoples vote is held - but I dont think its good news for Leave fans. It won't be good news if we have a second vote. The leave vote would be split in the first place. Some would just not vote as they would rightly ask, why should we if our vote is not respected. On the other side, retainers would turn out to stop a 2nd leave result. The vote would be skewed, turn out would be lower than the first vote and thus have less credibility. Also as pointed out by an audience member on question time last night and quickly ignored by the increasingly rubbish Fiona Bruce. If even a quarter of those who voted leave, abandon the main parties, those people will vote for more extreme parties and it would be bye bye to the current set up in parliament. This is exciting. I can't wait.
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| Maine Eagle USA 30 Mar 19 12.57am |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
The organisers claimed two million were on the anti-war march. Didn’t make much difference did it? Alls fair in love and Brexit? Brexit aint war in a foreign land, Teddy. I was comparing a march with a few thousand, to near a million on 2 sides of the same issue. No contest really.
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| Teddy Eagle 30 Mar 19 1.09am |
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Originally posted by Maine Eagle
Alls fair in love and Brexit? Brexit aint war in a foreign land, Teddy. I was comparing a march with a few thousand, to near a million on 2 sides of the same issue. No contest really. No you’re right it’s not war but there could be considerable unrest if the democratic process isn’t observed. The fact that it was a binary choice isn’t the fault of the voters. Any number of marches won’t change that.
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| Matov 30 Mar 19 1.58am |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
No you’re right it’s not war but there could be considerable unrest if the democratic process isn’t observed. The fact that it was a binary choice isn’t the fault of the voters. Any number of marches won’t change that. Quite. But lets be honest here, UK democracy effectively ended yesterday at 23.00. Where we go from here is beyond me with my hope being that we still leave on April 12th with no deal. Anything other than that, and I suspect we are into the twilight zone. And this continues forever with the fall out potentially lasting for decades. I have ditched people I have known, and liked, for decades over this now because I simply cannot countenance interacting with anybody, on anything other than the most basic level of civility or professional necessity, who actively seeks to see my vote on June 23rd discarded. We voted to leave. We should have left last night. We did not. Anymore delay past April 12th and for me, all bets are off. There will be no more 'United' Kingdom. Our entire system of Governance will lack any democratic legitimacy anymore. Because what will be the point of ever voting, ever again?
"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell. |
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Forest Hillbilly  in a hidey-hole 30 Mar 19 3.58am |
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A packed HoC. Guido Fawkes, . .where are you ?
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| Midlands Eagle 30 Mar 19 6.53am |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Oh good as that makes me above average
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| Midlands Eagle 30 Mar 19 6.54am |
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Originally posted by Maine Eagle
I do wonder what will happen if and when a peoples vote is held - but I dont think its good news for Leave fans. Why is it referred to as a "peoples' vote" Wasn't the original referendum a peoples' vote?
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cpfc_chap  koh samui 30 Mar 19 7.10am |
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Originally posted by Maine Eagle
Leave march today in Parliament Square. 95% middle aged and old white people. That aint representative of England anymore. I would be a bit embarrassed if Tommy Robinson was addressing one of the crowds supporting my side of this fiasco. He is entitled to spew forth his racist and small minded vitriol, but its pretty depressing stuff to listen to. I am not accusing anyone here on these pages, but we need to get real and accept that many people who voted leave did so out of xenophobia and racism. The fact that this is a primary motivation for many who voted to leave, doesnt sit well with me. How about you Brexit fans, how does it sit with you? I was up there yesterday to give my support for the leave vote and I was surprised at him many youngsters were amongst the crowd. Even met a group of young polish lads! Personally for me there needs to be a GE before we even consider another referendum! However this will not happen as the mps in leave constituency who have gone against the vote will be voted out in favour of genuine leavers who believes in Great Britain!
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| ChrisGC Wantage 30 Mar 19 7.27am |
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Originally posted by Maine Eagle
You think the fact that a UKIP rally had Tommy Robinson as a speaker doesnt mean that SOME (not all) UKIP leave voters are racist or xenophobic? Tell me another one. You are swimming in The Nile. Tommy Robinson is a hero and a patriot. Only the completely ignorant would label him otherwise. Just because somebody voted a way you didn't agree with doesn't make them a bigot.
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| dannyboy1978 30 Mar 19 7.34am |
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Originally posted by Maine Eagle
Leave march today in Parliament Square. 95% middle aged and old white people. That aint representative of England anymore. I would be a bit embarrassed if Tommy Robinson was addressing one of the crowds supporting my side of this fiasco. He is entitled to spew forth his racist and small minded vitriol, but its pretty depressing stuff to listen to. I am not accusing anyone here on these pages, but we need to get real and accept that many people who voted leave did so out of xenophobia and racism. The fact that this is a primary motivation for many who voted to leave, doesnt sit well with me. How about you Brexit fans, how does it sit with you? As your so well informed what was the make up of the 52% who voted leave?
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| dannyboy1978 30 Mar 19 7.39am |
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Originally posted by Maine Eagle
I am not prejudiced against middle aged white men, as I am one. The fact that you dont recognize that some people who voted for leave, did so for reasons of racism, is deluded. Just wondered if anyone here had a problem with that, and I guess the answer is no. Some people who go to watch football are racist do you have a problem with that? Does it stop you going to football matches?.
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