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 Maine Eagle  USA 29 Mar 19 5.20pm |
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
Are these 50 or 60 MPs the same ones that refuse to abide by the outcome of the original vote The very same. They are unable to abide by an in/out vote which makes no provision at all for how to leave the EU.
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| Tom-the-eagle Croydon 29 Mar 19 5.22pm |
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Just watching Nigel Farage. I'd forgotten how much I bloody love him. Wouldn't p@ss on any of the other politicians even if they were on fire. Spineless self serving c@nts the lot.
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| blackheatheagle Beckenham 29 Mar 19 5.41pm |
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Originally posted by Willo
The second referendum could result in a narrow victory for either side and the country will still be divided. At the end of the day, today was the day when Labour stopped Brexit for their own political purposes.They would have opposed any deal agreed by a Tory PM. Just like JRM and the ERG I am not sold on the May deal but as JRM said, half a loaf is better than no bread at all and many recognised that whilst the deal was not ideal, the alternatives were unpalatable and the deal would have delivered Brexit. Edited by Willo (29 Mar 2019 4.14pm) I guess much more it was Conservatives who committed for Brexit in their manifesto and was short of supporting the deal by 10%? Labour simply have no enough power to block Brexit, if so they would dictate no confidence for the government?
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 Hrolf The Ganger 29 Mar 19 5.42pm |
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Originally posted by Maine Eagle
The very same. They are unable to abide by an in/out vote which makes no provision at all for how to leave the EU. Again ridiculous. The same options will be available. If they can decide after a second referendum Leave victory, then they can decide now. It is a stance only designed to overturn the first vote. You aren't seriously arguing that the public should decide how we leave?
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| Maine Eagle USA 29 Mar 19 5.50pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Again ridiculous. The same options will be available. If they can decide after a second referendum Leave victory, then they can decide now. It is a stance only designed to overturn the first vote. You aren't seriously arguing that the public should decide how we leave? The point I am making is there would have to be different options, stipulating the public will on how to leave the EU. Well someone has to, dont they? Edited by Maine Eagle (29 Mar 2019 5.53pm)
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| Maine Eagle USA 29 Mar 19 5.50pm |
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Originally posted by Tom-the-eagle
Just watching Nigel Farage. I'd forgotten how much I bloody love him. Wouldn't p@ss on any of the other politicians even if they were on fire. Spineless self serving c@nts the lot. A massive liar. Still peddling his mistruths.
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 becky over the moon 29 Mar 19 5.52pm |
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I'll just leave this with you......
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Attachment: | Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 29 Mar 19 5.53pm |
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Originally posted by blackheatheagle
I guess much more it was Conservatives who committed for Brexit in their manifesto and was short of supporting the deal by 10%? Labour simply have no enough power to block Brexit, if so they would dictate no confidence for the government? It was blocked in the sense that 200+ Labour MPs voted against the deal.Only 34 Conservatives voted against the deal.
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| Hrolf The Ganger 29 Mar 19 6.10pm |
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Originally posted by Maine Eagle
The point I am making is there would have to be different options, stipulating the public will on how to leave the EU. Well someone has to, dont they? Edited by Maine Eagle (29 Mar 2019 5.53pm) And where will they magically appear from? This is not a question of MPs not being able to decide, it is a group, mostly Labour, blocking progress. The best way to deal with this is to block all Remainer MPs from a final vote and then we will get a decision, albeit one that does not please all Brexiters.
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| steeleye20 Croydon 29 Mar 19 6.14pm |
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What can the UK offer to secure a long extension? A general election or new referendum would be significant events. But revoking article 50 is the only thing that is still in the UKs power.
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| Maine Eagle USA 29 Mar 19 6.16pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
And where will they magically appear from? This is not a question of MPs not being able to decide, it is a group, mostly Labour, blocking progress. The best way to deal with this is to block all Remainer MPs from a final vote and then we will get a decision, albeit one that does not please all Brexiters. They will need to come from the indicative vote process. It wont be a menu, but there should be a few main options there. Customs union/single market etc. Any options need to: 1 - be cleared with EU beforehand Re deliberately blocking, you may be correct, but isnt Corbyn a famous euro skeptic? Either way, over 30 Tory brexiteers voted against her plan today, its not just Labour and I think those tories want Brexit, dont they? There your argument falls down a little bit. Labour has a brexit plan which includes a customs union, which makes the DUP feel a lot better I would think. So the way for you to win your position is to block anyone who doesnt agree with you having a voice? Thats how a dictatorship works, not a democracy.
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| Maine Eagle USA 29 Mar 19 6.20pm |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
What can the UK offer to secure a long extension? A general election or new referendum would be significant events. But revoking article 50 is the only thing that is still in the UKs power.
The EU will bite our hands off on an extension if they believe there is a chance this whole sorry sh&t show would be abandoned. Second referendum would give them the clearest route to that. A general would also be justification for an extension. May or anyone would go for a peoples vote before revoking article 50 any day.
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