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Hrolf The Ganger 29 Mar 19 3.39pm | |
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Originally posted by Maine Eagle
Sorry to say Hrolf but that is a terribly simplistic overview of the situation. Leave means Leave is a fallacy. How we leave, the way in which we leave, the circumstances of the leaving are seriously important, seriously different from one another, and seriously divisive. They also have enormous consequences for the future of the country. Its as simple as that really. Rubbish. There can be no second vote on leaving. The only question is how we leave and that is completely different. Since some Remainers have suggested that the public were not qualified to decide if we left or remained, then they surely can't be clever enough to decide how. Please don't try and pretend that this is anything more than an attempt to reverse the referendum result. Remainers have been trying to do that from day one.
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GRAND UNION Floating somewhere 29 Mar 19 3.42pm | |
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Originally posted by eagleman13
See ALL MP's have failed the British Public(yet again) I hope they continue to act treasonous & disagree on everything till the 12th of April, coz then we LEAVE automatically. I seriously don't give a flying fcuk who this upsets, OUT means OUT(by constitutional law) LEAVE means LEAVE I shall be partying when this happens!!!
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Stirlingsays 29 Mar 19 3.49pm | |
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Originally posted by Lyons550
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Midlands Eagle 29 Mar 19 3.50pm | |
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Originally posted by Maine Eagle
A general election is a terrible idea. Both parties need to respect the referendum result but neither can agree how. You cannot fight a General Election just on Brexit as there is far too many other things that need to be included in the party manifesto
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Midlands Eagle 29 Mar 19 3.51pm | |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
6 millions want to revoke that is really the only thing the UK can do on its own. 14.8 million wanted to Remain so if only 6 million now want to revoke I assume that it means that the other 8.8 million Remainers have now switched sides
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Stirlingsays 29 Mar 19 3.53pm | |
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
A general election is a terrible idea. Both parties need to respect the referendum result but neither can agree how. You cannot fight a General Election just on Brexit as there is far too many other things that need to be included in the party manifesto
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Midlands Eagle 29 Mar 19 3.53pm | |
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Originally posted by Maine Eagle
I am not sure if he has enough support amongst the non hard line brexiteers in the ERG and the like. Gove is more likely, or Javid or maybe Hunt. I have no idea whether Gove has enough support in the Conservative Party to become it's leader but he would never win a General Election as the general public see him as a two faced weasel that stabs his own colleagues in the back I've never voted Labour in my life but if Gove becomes leader I will next time
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Stirlingsays 29 Mar 19 3.57pm | |
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
I have no idea whether Gove has enough support in the Conservative Party to become it's leader but he would never win a General Election as the general public see him as a two faced weasel that stabs his own colleagues in the back I've never voted Labour in my life but if Gove becomes leader I will next time Yeah, I couldn't vote for Gove....or company man Hunt....Javid is ok for a wet but he looks like a vampire. Johnson if they want to win, Mogg if they want to please their base.....Anyone else and they are rolling a dice.
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Maine Eagle USA 29 Mar 19 3.57pm | |
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
I have no idea whether Gove has enough support in the Conservative Party to become it's leader but he would never win a General Election as the general public see him as a two faced weasel that stabs his own colleagues in the back I've never voted Labour in my life but if Gove becomes leader I will next time That hasnt held back other PMs Gove is 7/2 with ladrbrokes, with the next tory dirtbag rees-mogg at 4s. Johnson is way out at 12-1.
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Maine Eagle USA 29 Mar 19 3.59pm | |
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
A general election is a terrible idea. Both parties need to respect the referendum result but neither can agree how. You cannot fight a General Election just on Brexit as there is far too many other things that need to be included in the party manifesto I agree it solves nothing at all. The 'how' is the problem. Frankly my view is the only way to solve this now is a second referendum on brexit, just dont see another way out of the deadlock now.
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Maine Eagle USA 29 Mar 19 4.04pm | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Rubbish. There can be no second vote on leaving. Since some Remainers have suggested that the public were not qualified to decide if we left or remained, then they surely can't be clever enough to decide how. Please don't try and pretend that this is anything more than an attempt to reverse the referendum result. Remainers have been trying to do that from day one. The second referendum would be on how to leave, along with an option to not leave at all, based on a lot more information being available now since the misinformation of 2016. That is the point, the "how to leave" cannot be agreed in parliament, so people outside of Westminster have to decide it apparently. There should also be the option to cancel the whole sh&t show on there too if you ask me. I wont pretend, I would like nothing more than to see brexit consigned to the scrap heap, I think its a huge f&cking mistake and doesnt achieve even 20% of what people originally thought in 2016.
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Stirlingsays 29 Mar 19 4.05pm | |
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Originally posted by Maine Eagle
I agree it solves nothing at all. The 'how' is the problem. Frankly my view is the only way to solve this now is a second referendum on brexit, just dont see another way out of the deadlock now. And what when you lose that one and parliament still reject it? If you have another referendum then there can be no objection to a best of three....best of five....best of seven. No, the original referendum result was sold to the public that the result would be respected. It isn't the public's fault that the parliament is full of hopeful gravy train remainers. Edited by Stirlingsays (29 Mar 2019 4.05pm)
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