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 Kermit8  Hevon 12 Jun 16 5.45pm |
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Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch
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 Hrolf The Ganger  12 Jun 16 5.52pm |
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Originally posted by legaleagle
We risk sleepwalking to disaster... Brexit isn't a cure-all for all ailments: Feel your life is missing something or not as good as it used to be? Oh,I know,must be because of those EU migrants...Tosh of the highest order.Bit like the ordinary Protestants and Catholics historically being conned into blaming each other in N Ireland for life's ills. Or maybe its because if we Brexit we can spend £300m a year more on the NHS?.....Yeah,right,don't you just know Boris Johnson and Michael Gove are itching to spend loadsa money on public services.. Or maybe its because we miss having an Empire...Oh dear,the world moved on 50 years ago and we still haven't woken up to it... The EU has many many faults but a looming spectre of possible Brexit really is like heading the wrong way down a one way street at 90mph...scary indeed... Thought this article yesterday was a decent read.
It's got nothing to do with any of that. It's about self determination primarily. Trotting out these tired old cliches is all the Remains have left. And making a connection to football hooliganism is really laughable. I should remind everyone that the worst football hooliganism in Britain was predominantly under a Labour government in the 70's. Not that that is any more relevant than banging on about a few nobbies kicking off at the Euros.
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Jimenez  SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 12 Jun 16 5.55pm |
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Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch
No mainly because business can operate without EU Directives & Union interference.
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| DivingIsNotGood se25 12 Jun 16 5.55pm |
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why would anyone choose to stay knowing this [Link] ?
VOTING OUT - Brexit will allow Britain to embrace the Commonwealth and be GREAT again |
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| Kermit8 Hevon 12 Jun 16 6.00pm |
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Originally posted by chris123
We are massive net contributors to the EU coffers which is why most of the union don't want us to leave. And NATO is the rock bed of peace in Europe and that won't change whether we're in or out. How will NATO stop potential future euro conflicts over fishing rights, border disputes, ideologies, old score-settling, etc, if we Brexit and undermine the EU, and probably help it on its way to de-commissioning further down the line? Won't we just all go back to being countries competing and sometimes clashing because our bonded economic interests have separated? Countries tend to fight less when they are locked-in and have strong common financial interests at stake.
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| Kermit8 Hevon 12 Jun 16 6.09pm |
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Originally posted by DivingIsNotGood
why would anyone choose to stay knowing this [Link] ? What's the problem with 1m higher level Turkish being able to visit Britain without a visa? They won't all be booking the same flight or knocking at your door the following morning. They'll be spending their dosh here too.
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| Rubin 12 Jun 16 6.09pm |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
As did all the economic institutions/economists who are saying that we should stay in the EU.
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 Cucking Funt Clapham on the Back 12 Jun 16 6.17pm |
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I haven't heard a single cogent argument from the Remain camp, and no argument of any kind that isn't rooted in scaremongering or the interests of global corporations. I refuse to accept that the fifth largest economy in the world would be left isolated, trade-wise. Brexit, however, offers self-determination, control of our own borders and the power to eject those who govern. It lets us shape our own destiny rather than trust in an unelected and unaccountable bureaucracy in Brussels. The EU is nothing but a wannabe superstate largely dominated by the Germans which will spread its tentacles further and wider if we vote to stay in. Brexit would be the first step towards bringing the whole rotten deck of cards crashing down. The flight from federalism would spread like wildfire throughout Europe. Brexit is not without certain risks, sure, but I have every confidence that Britain can not only survive but thrive outside the pernicious institution that is the EU. Dont believe the lies. Out. Edited by Cucking Funt (12 Jun 2016 6.20pm)
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| Kermit8 Hevon 12 Jun 16 6.28pm |
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Yep. What has the EU ever done for us?
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| Cucking Funt Clapham on the Back 12 Jun 16 6.47pm |
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So we'd stop trading with the EU? No. 3/10. Must try harder. It's more scaremongering bollocks.
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| legaleagle 12 Jun 16 6.47pm |
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Ok. I get it,if something doesn't accords with your particular narrow world view,its rubbish which has nothing to do with why many (not all) favour Brexit (and why that's a bad idea). And my connection was to silly nationalisms and its present day manifestations rather than to football specifically. What's laughable to me are those who trot out cliches repeatedly but are so unaware of it they lay into anyone else by suggesting they are doing that, rather than actually dealing with the underlying points...ho hum. Actually arguably the worst "football hooliganism" I ever experienced was at the time of the Tory Heath government 1970-74.But for anyone to link it with any party government is simply inane,no?... Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
It's got nothing to do with any of that. It's about self determination primarily. Trotting out these tired old cliches is all the Remains have left. And making a connection to football hooliganism is really laughable. I should remind everyone that the worst football hooliganism in Britain was predominantly under a Labour government in the 70's. Not that that is any more relevant than banging on about a few nobbies kicking off at the Euros.
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| chris123 hove actually 12 Jun 16 6.50pm |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
How will NATO stop potential future euro conflicts over fishing rights, border disputes, ideologies, old score-settling, etc, if we Brexit and undermine the EU, and probably help it on its way to de-commissioning further down the line? Won't we just all go back to being countries competing and sometimes clashing because our bonded economic interests have separated? Countries tend to fight less when they are locked-in and have strong common financial interests at stake. Your question to which I answered referred to 70 years of peace in Europe. My answer is Nato and if you like more specifically article 5.
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